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    My one single Llanlad VRR thread for 2010.

    Hey guys ...

    Ive decided to open a new 2010 thread ... and i will make one promise for 2010 ... this will be my one and only VRR thread for the year.

    Ive hardly played any poker this month .. and ive been looking at how i want to progress in 2010 ..

    Im sitting here with roughly a $1k bankroll ... actually a touch less.

    I am not going to repeat the debacles of the last 2 years again ... so im looking for some serious progress this year.

    The first goal is to get to $1500 ...

    For starters .. i will be playing the 10 euro ( $15 ) SH handed tables ..which is roughly 66 buy ins ...

    Once i get to $1500 i will move upto the 20 euro tables ( $30 ) which will be 50 buy ins for that level.

    My initial goal is to have an earn rate of 5bb/100 hands ( 2.5PTBB ) which hopefully should be well within reach at the 10 euro tables.

    Im hoping to have a better earn rate than this ... but im not going to put myself under any pressure.

    At this earn rate, it will take me roughly 60k hands, less with RB hopefully... and then ill look at what might be my 2nd goal ..

    Im hoping to acheive this first goal in January .

    I know i could possibly be a little more adventerous .. but my intentions is too grind a bit and attain a straight forward earn rate to begin with ...

    This will allways be on the the SH tables ... there will be no FR, SNG's etc etc .. this is a straight forward plan to build my bankroll and move back up the limits.

    There will be no mass multi tabling ... a max of 6 tables .. maybe 8 if there are enough juicy tables.

    There will be no outbursts ... no quit threats ... maybe the odd moment of Mr Grumble....

    I will .. as usual post graphs of my progress .. and will be asking Fenris for a sweat session sometime in late January or February if things are not going great.

    By December 2010 ... i want to be back playing at least $100nl ..hopefully $200nl.

    Well ... bring on 2010
    There is a big misunderstanding between the concept of talent and skill, talent you have naturally but skill is only developed by hours and hours of beating on your craft... nobody got to where they were without hard work.

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    Thread has potential.
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    I like the approach of setting out clear goals and tackling them one at a time, I'm sure you're supposed to wait until the new year for these resolutions aren't you?

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    We are at a very similar position. My BR is at $1500 (actually, it's just dropped below as I'm trying out 50NL with 30 buy-ins. I went on a huge heater to move up, then got slapped in the face when I did. If it doesn't turn around very soon, I'm coming back down), and I'd like to be playing at least 100NL 6-max by the end of next year. Whether I'm talented enough is another matter entirely.

    So.... fancy a running partner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogs
    Whether I'm talented enough is another matter entirely.

    So.... fancy a running partner?
    Ive come to the conclusion .. its not all about talent ... its being able to keep a focused mind, not lose your rag and play within a bankroll which wont subconsciously make you afraid of losing ..

    There are many talented players ( more talented than me ) out there that dont really get anywhere due to not being able to conquer their demons ...

    Although im pretty damn sure there are some mediocre players out there with a sound mind that do rather well out of poker ..

    Obviously .. this is where i come unstuck ... regardless of what level im playing .. but i intend to put that right in the early months of 2010.

    I just need to build some kind of momentum and work from there..

    For a change .. ive set myself a realistic goal instead of trying to shoot for the stars ..

    As for a running partner ... yeah sure, it will be good to start off with someone thats in a similar boat .. ..

    Maybe you should give me $250 ... so it would be a level playing field
    There is a big misunderstanding between the concept of talent and skill, talent you have naturally but skill is only developed by hours and hours of beating on your craft... nobody got to where they were without hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanlad
    Ive come to the conclusion .. its not all about talent ... its about luck
    FYP

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    You should know all about luck tonight ..
    There is a big misunderstanding between the concept of talent and skill, talent you have naturally but skill is only developed by hours and hours of beating on your craft... nobody got to where they were without hard work.

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    OK ... first thing im going to do is remove my profit or loss stat on my table HUD ..

    I normally have my VPIP / PFR / winnings HUD stats on each table im playing ... the first 2 are ok because it gives me an idea of my table image against unkowns..

    But i see no real point in having my winnings or losses showing as well as it only distracts me and eventually gives me the hump.

    I still have a terrible problem with the feelings of injustice on the tables ...the loss of money is not the issue .. i get more frustrated when i keep missing flops or people allways hitting top pair with something crap like K4o ..after ive iso-raised them with AJ or something ... then bang, the flop is KJ2 and will they let go off top pair ??? ... off course not ..

    What i have to understand is that this is actually a good thing long term ...i wish i could just ignore previous hands and move on to the next one ...Im allmost allways taking the last 50 hands into my next hands thinking ....obviously not a great idea ...

    Ill be working on this too in January ..
    There is a big misunderstanding between the concept of talent and skill, talent you have naturally but skill is only developed by hours and hours of beating on your craft... nobody got to where they were without hard work.

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    Um, yes, I would have thought it blindingly obvious that profit stats in your HUD are a bad thing. Good move
    "Of course a thoughtful check is wrong too, but not as bad as a thoughtless check. Almost as bad though." - chrisjp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanlad
    Maybe you should give me $250 ... so it would be a level playing field
    I understand your thinking here and would jump to it, if it weren't for two things:

    1. You'll play far more volume than me, so I should probably have a head start.
    2. I'd have to transfer it to you on Stars, so you'd only lose it in a series of suckouts and get in a filthy mood.

    Your subsequent post has also prompted me to ask a HEM question. I know there's a forum for that, but this thread is bound to get more traffic.

    Like you, I show my VPIP/PFR on my HUD so that I get an idea how my image is against unknowns (of course, I say like you, but I am a HEM novice and haven't actually altered the defaults yet ). Now, let's say there's a chap I've played with before and have a couple of hundred hands against. I can see his stats over those hands... is there a way to show what stats he will have collected on me in the same period?

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    is there a way to show what stats he will have collected on me in the same period?
    Im not sure there is TBH, although i suppose if used some kind of filters you could do it .. but just not in a HUD .

    MY HUD is just a plethera of numbers ...i think i have one too many ..

    First line
    VPIP, PFR, Hands, Winnings

    2nd line
    Flop agg, Turn agg, River agg, Check raise, Steal

    3rd line
    Flop CB, Turn CB, Fold to flop cbet, Fold to turn cbet, Fold to donk bet flop

    4th line
    3bet, 4bet, Fold to 3bet, Fold to 4bet, Fold to flop cbet in 3bet pot

    5th line
    Went to showdown, Won at showdown, SB fold to steal, BB fold to steal, fold vrs river bet

    After 100 hands of missing everything, i cant see past the first line anyway.
    There is a big misunderstanding between the concept of talent and skill, talent you have naturally but skill is only developed by hours and hours of beating on your craft... nobody got to where they were without hard work.

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    I may allready have a change of plan ... ( shock horror )

    The Ladbrokes tables are indeed juicy at times ... but the RB deal is not the greatest .. there are better options on ipoker ..

    So, with ipoker changing from dealt to contributed rake in January ... i reckon the tables will lossen up somewhat and i have a nice deal with Betfred ..

    Sooooo ... instead of a lowish RB payment every month, i get a better one every week .. some nice RB installments will make me feel good trying to build up my bankroll ..

    TBH, i dont even mind if the tables are a little nitty ... ive got used to 6 max a little more nowadays .. and im quiet happy to be playing tight players at 6 max.

    So with just under $1k .. ill be playing the $20 tables ... 50 buy ins should be a decent enough buffer ..

    If i find the tables are still really bad, then ill go back to Laddies ... so its not a big deal.
    There is a big misunderstanding between the concept of talent and skill, talent you have naturally but skill is only developed by hours and hours of beating on your craft... nobody got to where they were without hard work.

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    With EyePoker you'll have no problem finding good tables on ipoker. Difference with Laddies is that there EVERY low limit table is a good table.

    I only left there because the RNG took a horrible dislike to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scully
    With EyePoker you'll have no problem finding good tables on ipoker. Difference with Laddies is that there EVERY low limit table is a good table.

    I only left there because the RNG took a horrible dislike to me
    I used Eyepoker to datamine about 10k hands yesterday ... and then i scanned the tables using the HEM scanner ( much quicker than Eyepoker ) ...

    And yes your right ... for what stats i had ... the ipoker tables did not look great, i then quickly opened up Laddies and scanned the tables ...

    The difference was borderline funny ..

    But i will stick with Ipoker this month, just to see how i go ... can allways return to Laddies at any time.
    There is a big misunderstanding between the concept of talent and skill, talent you have naturally but skill is only developed by hours and hours of beating on your craft... nobody got to where they were without hard work.

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    I'm going to be returning to Laddies as soon as my Bodog payout request goes through. Let's face it, I ran $100 into over $8k in 5 months there last year - before the RNG decided to hate me and I started playing like a total arse as a result. The only thing that will stop you doing similar is yourself IMO

    I'll still be mixing it up between ipoker, Laddies and FTP though

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