Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 1211 Location: Las Vegas
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: Two pair on the river
Is the pot too large to find a fold here? In SSHE I read a lot about calling in a large pot on the river even though you may be behind. Not certain this applies here.
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.20 Limit Hold'em - 10 players
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MP1 posts a big blind (1 SB)
Pre Flop: (2.5 SB) Hero is SB with 9 : A :
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 checks, 2 folds, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero calls, BB checks
Flop: (6 SB) 9 : A : K : (6 players) Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, CO calls, BTN folds
Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Posts: 1684 Location: Here, stupid
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:24 am Post subject:
I think the 'call on the river' advice is more valuable in a HU pot, where you have the (relatively) straightforward task of assessing whether you opp has a worse hand the required X% of the time. Although you're getting 15:1 here, you're 2nd pr is counterfeited (so a split is probably the very best you can hope for) and two previously passive opps are now showing aggression in a 4-way pot. The only saving grace is that you're closing the action but, even so, this appears to be a lost cause.
Joined: 07 Apr 2004 Posts: 7762 Location: Drinking Carrot juice
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:36 am Post subject:
Misunderstood summed things up pretty well. Best case is a split, but more often you're behind here. I'd reluctantly fold given 2 opponents. Overcalling is generally a bad idea. I can count on my fingers the times I folded an overcall that would have won. You need a really strong hand to overcall - especially when someone c/r the river into multiple players. I doubt he's expecting to fold everyone.
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