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Two pair on the river

 
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Schlepper333
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Two pair on the river Reply with quote

Is the pot too large to find a fold here? In SSHE I read a lot about calling in a large pot on the river even though you may be behind. Not certain this applies here.

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MP1 posts a big blind (1 SB)

Pre Flop: (2.5 SB) Hero is SB with 9 Spade: A Spade:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 checks, 2 folds, CO calls, BTN calls, Hero calls, BB checks

Flop: (6 SB) 9 Club: A Heart: K Heart: (6 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, CO calls, BTN folds

Turn: (5 BB) J Spade: (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, CO calls

River: (9 BB) K Diamond: (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, CO calls, Hero calls, BB raises, UTG+2 calls, CO folds, Hero ??
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Misunderstud
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 'call on the river' advice is more valuable in a HU pot, where you have the (relatively) straightforward task of assessing whether you opp has a worse hand the required X% of the time. Although you're getting 15:1 here, you're 2nd pr is counterfeited (so a split is probably the very best you can hope for) and two previously passive opps are now showing aggression in a 4-way pot. The only saving grace is that you're closing the action but, even so, this appears to be a lost cause.
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Bugsbunny
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misunderstood summed things up pretty well. Best case is a split, but more often you're behind here. I'd reluctantly fold given 2 opponents. Overcalling is generally a bad idea. I can count on my fingers the times I folded an overcall that would have won. You need a really strong hand to overcall - especially when someone c/r the river into multiple players. I doubt he's expecting to fold everyone.
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