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TheAlmightyKhan



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:23 pm    Post subject: turn af versus river af Reply with quote

Consistently (over the last 150,000 hands) my turn AF is lower than my river AF (while both are considerably lower than my flop AF).

Im often told that AFs should decrease from flop to river, but I find myself checking turn OOP with top pair like hands to ensure I don't play a big pot with a medium-weak hand, and also rarely fire a second bullet at low limits because I find in general you are rarely called by complete air.

However, I often bluff the river because I find people unwilling to call without a big hand, and I'm also ok at value betting medium hands.

Is this a leak that is potentially limiting my win rate or just a result of my strategy?
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royze1
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: turn af versus river af Reply with quote

TheAlmightyKhan wrote:
Consistently (over the last 150,000 hands) my turn AF is lower than my river AF (while both are considerably lower than my flop AF).

Im often told that AFs should decrease from flop to river, but I find myself checking turn OOP with top pair like hands to ensure I don't play a big pot with a medium-weak hand, and also rarely fire a second bullet at low limits because I find in general you are rarely called by complete air.

However, I often bluff the river because I find people unwilling to call without a big hand, and I'm also ok at value betting medium hands.

Is this a leak that is potentially limiting my win rate or just a result of my strategy?



A smart player is going to figure out what you are doing and take advantage of you at some point. All it would take is someone who has their HUD set up to show AF by street.

It's a potential huge leak if it isn't one already.

If you are ok at value betting medium hands on the river then you should be doing it as well on the turn as well for the most part.

I'm actually surprised you are having any success at SSNL with big river bluffs. Those people suspect every bet is a bluff before they wake up in the morning.
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