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AlamedaMike
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 Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: TPM - when to quit a game |
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The Poker Mindset mentions when to quit a game. There are lots of reasons.
I was playing 6/12 live game. Things were going well. I was winning a little which is always nice and playing pretty well. I had been playing 2.5 hours.
I picked up KQo OTB and failed to raise, I limped. Humm, what is going on here? Is that tilt? There were 2 limpers and 2 blinds and I should have raised. I though about it and decided not to.
Flop 6K6 Mixed suits (5 players)
MP bet, 1 called and I called. - I should have raised! Blinds folded.
Turn Js (3 players)
Checked to me and I bet, both called.
River Ac (3 Players)
Checked around and MP won with AJo.
He had nada on the flop. I played a few more hands and then decided to quit because I was, for some reason, not playing my best game. Maybe I was getting tired or bored - not sure. But, quiting a good game for this reason is, IMO, a good idea.
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Piemaster
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| Absolutely. You were basically on tilt and not playing your best game. This is one of the two reasons listed in TPM for quitting the game. Sounds like you were on passive or maybe FPS tilt. |
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tichodromia
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:37 am Post subject: |
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| is that when you are tempted just to carry on playing cos you have nothign better to do....ie not staying in for positive reasons...? |
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Piemaster
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| tichodromia wrote: | | is that when you are tempted just to carry on playing cos you have nothign better to do....ie not staying in for positive reasons...? |
Sorry, what are we talking about here? |
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AlamedaMike
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Piemaster wrote: | | Absolutely. You were basically on tilt and not playing your best game. This is one of the two reasons listed in TPM for quitting the game. Sounds like you were on passive or maybe FPS tilt. |
At this limit I do not much bother with FPS at all.
The only 3 things that I do that might be close to FPS are c/r, try for a free card, and raise for value with a draw and more than 4 players.
I think I slipped into passive play.
Thanks
BTW, speaking of psychological issues - I seem to be more interested in playing when I am behind and want to get my money back that when I am ahead and want to make more money?
Now that I have recognized that I need to work on it.
The more I think about it the more I realize that my issues with poker are not technical but psychological. I think that I know the correct play most of the time because I have studied it so well. Everyone makes mistakes, as you said in your book - no one plays perfect poker - its the other things that I now need to conquer.
Stay of tilt etc. - I never rage at the poker gods, well, I can not say never but I seldom rage, but that does not mean that I always play my best game.
That is the issue in a nut shell - always play your best game and if your best game is good enough then you will do well at poker.
BTW - interestingly enough I never blame the dealer for anything. My wife, bless her, does get mad at the dealer and she realizes that this is nonsense but can't help herself yet - she said to me that she noticed that I never get upset or are bothered by the dealer - when I get a bad beat I miss the money but that is about it. I will take a walk if I think it is bothering me - then post it on the forum.  |
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chillrob
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Just wanted to let you know that it seems I also want to play longer when I am behind. Actually it is really more that I want to play shorter when I am up a significant amount, because it makes me feel good to "lock in" a win. If I am up a lot and then lose it later, I will be kicking myself for not leaving when I was ahead. This is not really a disaster I guess, but it could leave me playing in worse games and leaving better games.
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nsidestrate
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| Playing too long when you are chasing a loss is a major leak for many players. I sometimes hit the casino in the early morning hours and catch people steaming from a bad night trying to play catch-up and making poor decisions. |
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chillrob
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Yeah, I know it can be, but I don't think I am actually playing worse when I am losing, and I only do it if I think it is still a good game. I have never really played a lot longer than I meant to anyway. It is really more that I have left earlier than I planned to when I was winning a lot, because I was afraid that if I lost it later it would depress me.
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Piemaster
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| chillrob wrote: | | Just wanted to let you know that it seems I also want to play longer when I am behind. Actually it is really more that I want to play shorter when I am up a significant amount, because it makes me feel good to "lock in" a win. |
Unfortunately unless you plan on giving up poker for the rest of your life, there is no way to actually 'lock in' a win. |
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AlamedaMike
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| Piemaster wrote: | | chillrob wrote: | | Just wanted to let you know that it seems I also want to play longer when I am behind. Actually it is really more that I want to play shorter when I am up a significant amount, because it makes me feel good to "lock in" a win. |
Unfortunately unless you plan on giving up poker for the rest of your life, there is no way to actually 'lock in' a win. |
You are just borrowing the money for awhile. |
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