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To dump AA on heavy flop action

 
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blah730235



Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: To dump AA on heavy flop action Reply with quote

TexasRail is 45/5/1.0
phbh is 64/17/1.5

PokerStars Game #20151901842: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2008/09/04 20:31:49 ET
Table 'Galatea' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Jaws758 ($6.79 in chips)
Seat 2: TexasRail ($3.93 in chips)
Seat 3: BlackRain79 ($9.86 in chips)
Seat 4: phbh ($8.59 in chips)
Seat 5: blah730235 ($7.75 in chips)
Seat 6: Meep2 ($5.05 in chips)
Seat 7: Waltham2 ($5.72 in chips)
Seat 8: CoinJock ($9.26 in chips)
Seat 9: Dara2k ($3.97 in chips)
phbh: posts small blind $0.02
blah730235: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to blah730235 Ace of Hearts Ace of Diamonds
Meep2: folds
Waltham2: folds
Waltham2 is sitting out
CoinJock: calls $0.05
Dara2k: folds
Jaws758: folds
TexasRail: calls $0.05
BlackRain79: folds
phbh: calls $0.03
blah730235: raises $0.20 to $0.25
CoinJock: calls $0.20
TexasRail: calls $0.20
phbh: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** 6 of Spades 2 of Clubs 9 of Clubs
phbh: bets $0.34
blah730235: raises $1.16 to $1.50
CoinJock: folds
TexasRail: raises $2.18 to $3.68 and is all-in
phbh: folds
Waltham2 has returned
blah730235: calls $2.18

Call or fold here?
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CameronMilelr



Joined: 09 Aug 2008
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have called personally due to pot odds (and an unwillingness to lay down my AA)
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Soultwister



Joined: 19 May 2006
Posts: 428

PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This spot is quite annoying but I think there's no value in calling here vs someone with such a low AF. You are looking at sets, combo draws and two pair here almost always, and vs that range, even with those pot odds, calling is -EV.

But why do you raise to only 5BB preflop from the blinds when there are already 3 people who called? AA is not a hand you want to play vs 3 other people OOP, and the same goes for any other hand which you want to raise in this spot. Your preflop raise size could be quite a bit larger to something like 7-8BB which will make the hand much easier to play, and does not give the other players such great odds to see a flop in position.
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blah730235



Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 162

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My standard raise amount is: 3bb + 1bb per limper + 1bb in EP

I don't always stick to that but it's what I raise preflop most of the time. I think it's a leak of mine where i'm afraid my aces won't get any action so I don't raise as much as I should. Thank you for bringing it to light.

I was pretty sure this was a fold but couldn't bring myself to do it here. Another leak...
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toronexti
53o


Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 4109

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

His aggression factor isn't that low considering he's playing 45% of his hands. Call. Also PF 5-7 is fine I think 8 is a bit much in general.
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Fumseck
Cannuque


Joined: 17 Jun 2005
Posts: 3295
Location: Quebec, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is not much 2 pair hands he can have. He may have a set, but the most likely holding is a draw, a 9 or an overpair like TT, JJ.

With his stats, I have a hard time folding this. I think I call.

At these limits you can easily (and you should) crank up your preflop raise amount.
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