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The advantage of the mucks

 
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ltdan



Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Posts: 6
Location: Richmond, VA

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: The advantage of the mucks Reply with quote

I admit - I didn't know this for kind of a long time. So I can only assume, many poker players playing on-line and live don't know this either.

Live games - typically you never see cards players muck.
Online - it's right in the hand history for all to see.

So - how important is this? How often do you typically bother to check the mucks while playing online?

Do you vary your play to account for the difference? It seems like quite a large advantage if the players do not know about it - altough unlikely at any serious level.

Or is it just not overly important when faced with understanding and mastering other more important facets of the game?

And for those of you I've met - I suspect this post will firmly remove any shred of evidence that ever hinted I might have been some sort of ringer at Shark-a-palooza. Eh, I'm OK with that - I just want to play better poker.
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nsidestrate
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Joined: 26 May 2004
Posts: 22399

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are software tools that automatically show you the mucked cards. When I use them, I tend to look at pretty much every hand. If I have to click the hand history button, I probably only check one in 20 or more.

When it really helps is when I go back and look at my sessions in pokertracker. I usually learn things about the other players that I didn't notice in real time and I try to add suitable notes.
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ltdan



Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Location: Richmond, VA

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How often do you use such software?

Do any of those happen to run natively on a Mac?
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nsidestrate
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lack of native Mac support is why I only run it sometimes. I use parallels or one of the ugly Windows laptops when I feel the need.
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Taardvark
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Joined: 14 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060
Location: Fremont, CA

PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I check pretty much everytime. Before I do I try to guess what villian(s) had to test my reading skills.
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enteratlantis



Joined: 16 Jun 2008
Posts: 2

PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsidestrate wrote:
There are software tools that automatically show you the mucked cards. When I use them, I tend to look at pretty much every hand. If I have to click the hand history button, I probably only check one in 20 or more.

When it really helps is when I go back and look at my sessions in pokertracker. I usually learn things about the other players that I didn't notice in real time and I try to add suitable notes.


Really , is this true??
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jeffnc
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Joined: 13 Jan 2004
Posts: 7222
Location: NC, USA

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They don't show you anything that isn't available from the poker site itself.
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superduperchick



Joined: 05 Aug 2008
Posts: 19
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup i always check constantly !
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