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Scully
Joined: 25 Jul 2004
Posts: 729
Location: Manchester, UK
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 Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: Surely I can't be expecting to be beat here? |
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Villain has not been at the table long - I've not seen him do anything out of line. Surely I can't expect to be beat here???
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10+$1 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB (t14923)
Hero (UTG) (t13512)
UTG+1 (t7515)
MP1 (t2370)
MP2 (t5405)
MP3 (t5270)
CO (t4525)
Button (t15565)
SB (t1970)
Hero's M: 60.05
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10 , 10
Hero raises to t450, 3 folds, MP3 calls t450, 1 fold, Button calls t450, 2 folds
Flop: (t1575) 3, 7 , 10 (3 players)
Hero bets t850, MP3 calls t850, Button calls t850
Turn: (t4125) 5 (3 players)
Hero bets t2500, MP3 calls t2500, Button calls t2500
River: (t11625) 4 (3 players)
Hero bets t4500, 1 fold, Button raises to t11765 (All-In), Hero calls t5212 (All-In)
Total pot: t31049 |
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ImBetterDude
Joined: 18 Jul 2007
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Location: California
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| Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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You could easily be beat here. I see him making this raise with a lower set maybe, MAYBE, but usually just a 6 for the straight. I think he's bluffing here 1% or never, lol.
He either called you with suited connectors, pocket sixes, or maybe A 6 suited. Either way it's pretty frusterating if you lost.
Don't get me wrong though, I'd still call due to the strength of my hand and the pot odds being offered. |
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Radford
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Location: Sheffield, England
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| I personally bet bigger on the turn. Your bet seems a little on the weak side. I don't mind the half pot bet on the flop because i want my opponents to think i am weak. But on the turn i probably bet more like 3800. |
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Scully
Joined: 25 Jul 2004
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Location: Manchester, UK
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:08 am Post subject: |
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I did wonder about that Rad - although given this clown called the flop bet bet with no pair and no draw I reckon had I shoved the turn he would've called with his OESD.
On another point, is villain's play with that had in any way defensible. I think it's been played horribly and he's a major luckbox but I have been known to miss the point sometimes |
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ciaran
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Joined: 10 Sep 2004
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Location: Alpharetta, GA
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Scully wrote: | I did wonder about that Rad - although given this clown called the flop bet bet with no pair and no draw I reckon had I shoved the turn he would've called with his OESD.
On another point, is villain's play with that had in any way defensible. I think it's been played horribly and he's a major luckbox but I have been known to miss the point sometimes |
Unless I'm missing something, he can't have had no draw on flop to have an OESD on the turn. 86 no hearts has a gutshot, at least (I'm assuming that's what he had). His play looks pretty poor regardless of what he had, though.
I think I check-call the river, BTW. Both opponents have played this like they have a draw, and they're not calling with hands you beat. Gonna be weird when it goes check-bet-shove back to you, though. |
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Scully
Joined: 25 Jul 2004
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Location: Manchester, UK
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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I figured his line was only consistent with Ah6h - and even that was doubtful as I would expect a fold PF with that holding.
I was astonished when he showed Qc6s |
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mash_tun
Joined: 10 May 2006
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Location: CT, USA
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| ciaran wrote: |
I think I check-call the river, BTW. Both opponents have played this like they have a draw, and they're not calling with hands you beat. Gonna be weird when it goes check-bet-shove back to you, though. |
I like this line, too. I think it has more long-term value, and also allows you to escape from the hand with a workable stack if fireworks erupt on the river...
If you check, you're going to get value from bluffing hands/weaker made hands (missed draws, PPs > TT, 2-pr hands) that take a stab at the river when you show weakness. Plus, if you check, and it goes bet-push, I think you can more easily find a fold, unless you have great reads on both villains as loose/bluffy/donkish... |
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Scully
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Location: Manchester, UK
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| Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Looking back at this hand I'm quite annoyed that I didn't check/call as this is an area I've been consciously trying to improve on in order to get more value out of hands both in tourneys and cash games |
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