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Stud Hi-Lo hand #2

 
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Willem
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Stud Hi-Lo hand #2 Reply with quote

I am a beginner in stud hi/lo so I am looking for comments on all streets.

Poker Stars
Limit Stud Hi/Lo (8 or better)
Limit: $0.10/$0.20 ($0.02 ante/ $0.5 bring in)
7 players

3rd street: ($0.14, 7players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds
Seat 2: King of Clubs
Seat 3: Queen of Hearts
Seat 4: 5 of Clubs
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs
Action:
Seat 4 brings it in for $0.05, Seat 5 calls, Hero calls, Seat 8 calls, Seat 1 calls, 2 folds.

Would anyone raise here? I think this hand likes many opponents so I don't want to scare them of. Correct thinking?

4rd street: ($0.39, 5 players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs
Seat 4: 5 of Clubs Queen of Clubs
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades
Action:
5 checks.

I have only 3 cards for a low and just a gutshot + backdoor flushdraw for high. I don't see any point in betting here.

5th street: ($0.39, 5 players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs 6 of Spades
Seat 4: 5 of Clubs Queen of Clubs 10 of Clubs
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs 7 of Clubs (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades 7 of Spades
Action:
Seat 4 checks, Seat 5 checks, Hero bets $0.20, Seat 8 calls, Seat 1 calls, Seat 4 folds, Seat 5 calls.

Probably the best card I could get. I now have a OESD, a flush draw for high and I have also 4 cards to a low.

6th street: ($1.19, 4players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs 6 of Spades Queen of Spades
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds 3 of Spades
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs 7 of Clubs 3 of Diamonds (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades 7 of Spades Jack of Hearts
Action:
Seat 1 bets $0.20, Seat 5 calls, Hero raises to $0.40, Seat 8 calls, Seat 1 calls, Seat 1 calls.

Another good card. I now have a strait for hi and a 7,6,5,4,3 for lo. It looks like they are both good.

River: ($2.79, 4 players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs 6 of Spades Queen of Spades
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds 3 of Spades
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs 7 of Clubs 3 of Diamonds 5 of Hearts (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades 7 of Spades Jack of Hearts
Action:
Seat 1 checks, Seat 5 checks, Hero bets $0.20, Seat 8 calls, 2 folds.

Clear value bet I think.
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chillrob
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see any mistakes. The only possible change would be that a 3rd street raise might be called for _if_ it is not likely to scare off customers. Like you say, you don't want to do that, but in a .10/.20 game it might not stop anyone from calling. (I don't actually know how microlimit stud8 games play, but think it might be possible that a raise would be unrespected).

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Icall
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I complete 3rd street. If it had already been completed in front of me then I'd just call but you should go ahead and complete premium starting hands like that on 3rd street. You'll still get called by most playable hands, its not going to scare anyone away. You're almost expected to complete it when you're playing a hand on 3rd.

Good check on 4th. FWIW you do not have a gutshot.

From 5th street on you're just betting and raising at every opportunity. Pretty straightforward and you made the correct and obvious moves.
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Willem
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. The table was surprisingly tight, sometimes just 3-way on the 4th street. I didn't want to chase anyone away, hopefully people hit some kind of crappy pair on 4th street and will pay me of.

As you can see, I sometimes have a little bit or trouble reading my own hand as I indeed didn't have a gutshot on 4th street. So many cards to look at compared to hold'em. Smile

Seat 8 showed: 2 of Spades Ace of Clubs Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades 7 of Spades Jack of Hearts 8 of Hearts and was drawing dead for both hi and lo on the 6th street. Scooped pots are always very nice.
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Taardvark
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with everyone. At this level missing the 3rd street bet isn't that bad. You'll likely make it up later. Everyone elses door cards aren't to threatening and you have a good low starting hand so a raise is probably optimal here.

When possible I like to build the pots early with strong hands to keep players in throughout. Even tight players will chase (correctly in most cases) their draws when the pot is big.

I like the check on 4th. Your hand is pretty transitional at that point and you need clarity on 5th if you can continue with a low draw or abandon ship with a middling hand.

Perfect card on 5th street.

6th and 7th play themselves.
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Ezqimo



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:21 am    Post subject: Re: Stud Hi-Lo hand #2 Reply with quote

Willem wrote:
I am a beginner in stud hi/lo so I am looking for comments on all streets.

Poker Stars
Limit Stud Hi/Lo (8 or better)
Limit: $0.10/$0.20 ($0.02 ante/ $0.5 bring in)
7 players

3rd street: ($0.14, 7players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds
Seat 2: King of Clubs
Seat 3: Queen of Hearts
Seat 4: 5 of Clubs
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs
Action:
Seat 4 brings it in for $0.05, Seat 5 calls, Hero calls, Seat 8 calls, Seat 1 calls, 2 folds.

Would anyone raise here? I think this hand likes many opponents so I don't want to scare them of. Correct thinking? I AGREE
4rd street: ($0.39, 5 players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs
Seat 4: 5 of Clubs Queen of Clubs
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades
Action:
5 checks.

I have only 3 cards for a low and just a gutshot + backdoor flushdraw for high. I don't see any point in betting here. NO YOU HAVE NOTHING ... ALSO A LOT OF FLUSH CARDS ARE OUT THERE SO YOUR NOT DRAWING LIVE


5th street: ($0.39, 5 players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs 6 of Spades
Seat 4: 5 of Clubs Queen of Clubs 10 of Clubs
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs 7 of Clubs (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades 7 of Spades
Action:
Seat 4 checks, Seat 5 checks, Hero bets $0.20, Seat 8 calls, Seat 1 calls, Seat 4 folds, Seat 5 calls.
I SHOULD DO THE SAME. GET RID OF THE BUMS AND SHOECLERCKS

Probably the best card I could get. I now have a OESD, a flush draw for high and I have also 4 cards to a low.

6th street: ($1.19, 4players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs 6 of Spades Queen of Spades
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds 3 of Spades
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs 7 of Clubs 3 of Diamonds (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades 7 of Spades Jack of Hearts
Action:
Seat 1 bets $0.20, Seat 5 calls, Hero raises to $0.40, Seat 8 calls, Seat 1 calls, Seat 1 calls.

DEFINATLY WORTH A BET/RAISE. THE BOARDS ARENT THAT SCARY

Another good card. I now have a strait for hi and a 7,6,5,4,3 for lo. It looks like they are both good.

River: ($2.79, 4 players)
Seat 1: Queen of Diamonds 2 of Clubs 6 of Spades Queen of Spades
Seat 5: 7 of Hearts 6 of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds 3 of Spades
Seat 7: 5 of Diamonds 4 of Clubs 6 of Clubs 9 of Clubs 7 of Clubs 3 of Diamonds 5 of Hearts (hero)
Seat 8: Jack of Clubs 8 of Spades 7 of Spades Jack of Hearts
Action:
Seat 1 checks, Seat 5 checks, Hero bets $0.20, Seat 8 calls, 2 folds.



Clear value bet I think.
I AGREE
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