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Icall
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Posts: 3651
Location: NYC

PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:59 pm    Post subject: Stud H/L hand... Reply with quote

Preamble: I did this manually and I'm sure its not the easiest thing in the world to read. However, it was a major PITA to write so if anyone who reads this could at least try to give me some feedback I'd really appreciate it. I hope its not too hard to decipher, I did my best.

This is probably a typical spot with an easy answer but it stumped me at the table since I really don't know how to play Stud H/L very well at all.

All players are pretty typical. They bet their good hands and check/call or fold their weak ones. No crazies at the table.

Stars HORSE $1/$2 ($0.10 ante/ $0.50 bring in) 8 players

Seat 1: Ace of Diamonds
Seat 2: 5 of Hearts
Seat 3: Jack of Hearts
Seat 4 (Hero): 5 of Spades 3 of Clubs 2 of Diamonds
Seat 5: 5 of Clubs
Seat 6: 8 of Spades
Seat 7: 6 of Clubs
Seat 8: Ace of Clubs

3rd St action: Hero brings it in for $0.50, Seats 5 and 6 fold, Seat 7 calls, Seat 8 raises to $1, Seat 1 calls, Seats 2 and 3 fold, Hero and Seat 7 call.

Pot after 3rd: $4.80 (4 players)

4th street:
Seat 1: Ace of Diamonds 3 of Spades
Hero: 5 of Spades 3 of Clubs 2 of Diamonds 6 of Diamonds
Seat 7: 6 of Clubs 9 of Diamonds
Seat 8: Ace of Clubs 3 of Diamonds

4th St action: Seat 1 checks, checked around.

Pot after 4th: $4.80 (4 players)

5th street:
Seat 1: Ace of Diamonds 3 of Spades 8 of Diamonds
Hero: 5 of Spades 3 of Clubs 2 of Diamonds 6 of Diamonds 9 of Spades
Seat 7: 6 of Clubs 9 of Diamonds 10 of Clubs
Seat 8: Ace of Clubs 3 of Diamonds 5 of Diamonds

Pot after 5th: $4.80 (4 players)

5th St action: Seat 1 checks, checked around.

6th Street:
Seat 1: Ace of Diamonds 3 of Spades 8 of Diamonds Jack of Diamonds
Hero: 5 of Spades 3 of Clubs 2 of Diamonds 6 of Diamonds 9 of Spades 2 of Spades
Seat 7: 6 of Clubs 9 of Diamonds 10 of Clubs 2 of Clubs
Seat 8: Ace of Clubs 3 of Diamonds 5 of Diamonds Ace of Spades

6th St action:
Seat 8 checks, Seat 1 bets $2, Hero...?
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chillrob
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sure looks like he has a flush if your read on the table is correct. Good chance you have the best low draw, but with such a small pot you don't have the odds to draw to half the pot. Even if you just put him on trips or two pair I don't think you have the pot odds to draw for high. Even if you put him on a bluff, the guy with 2 Aces showing isn't going to fold.

Fold.

Rob
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Icall
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I folded. Felt really weak but the pot odds just didn't seem to be there.

Do you think I was too passive prior to that? Should I have brought it in for the full bet on 3rd? I basically never bring it in for more than the minimum but I'm wondering if that's wrong.

Should I have been more aggressive on the earlier streets? Perhaps betting out on 5th after 4th got checked around? I was checking because there were some strong boards out there, I figured I had no fold equity against those boards, and I was trying to draw cheaply to my hand if they would let me.
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chillrob
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no advocate of passive play generally, but I couldn't bet anywhere here either. Two very strong boards against you, one with a likely better low draw than you, and I doubt either would fold.

I wouldn't bring it in big with your hand - with basically a low draw only you want a lot of people to play. The only time I would bring it in for full is a hand you would prefer to have fewer people in for, usually a pair.

Rob
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Ezqimo



Joined: 28 Feb 2007
Posts: 18
Location: Belgium

PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My opinion.

I wouldn't double on 3th since there are many scare cards out there.

Your 4th street card is good. Probably gives you a great low draw and also a inside strait draw ! But what more important is that your drawing very live here. I would put in a bet here to thin out the field a bit.

From then on it depens how many callers you have.

I just posted a strategy post on stud hi/lo so you will find more answers there.

Gtz

Ezqimo
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