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Radford
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 Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject: Stop n go? Is AT good here? |
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No reads. Middle of a tourney. $55 buyin.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $50+$5 Tournament, t1000/t2000 Blinds (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB (t62959)
UTG (t33256)
Rad (UTG+1) (t31482)
MP1 (t27369)
MP2 (t57929)
CO (t13886)
Button (t89761)
SB (t14932)
Preflop: Rad is UTG+1 with  , 
1 fold, Rad raises to t4999, 4 folds, SB calls t3999, 1 fold
Flop: (t13598)  ,  ,  (2 players)
SB bets t9733 (All-In), Rad?????
Is AT good here? |
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emmapeel
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: |
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Well villain was short of chips pre-flop but only called and not pushed. I think drawing hands like 78 would be very unlikely here so that's not good news. Indeed, if villain planned the stop n go then it is still likely he had something pre-flop to use for this. A9 or less is possible I suppose or even worse if he had decided to go for the bluff pre-flop. I think it is more likely he had a legit hand pre-flop and if so then Hero is in bad shape.
If villain had a queen then he might go for the check-raise to win more chips but instead he pushed immediately. It might be a bluff that saw this board as a good one to bluff on but I think more likely it is a middleish pair that worried about giving a free card; 77 or 88.
I'm going to fold here as even some bluffs like AJ are ahead.
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jmbreslin
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think you're ahead of many hands here. The typical hands that would pull a stop-n-go here would be low-med PPs and perhaps something like AJ/AQ. Even if he pulled it with something like KQ/QJ, you're now behind on the flop. Gotta let this one go. |
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ImBetterDude
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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| At this level, I'm folding A 10 UTG +1 most of the time. Am I in the wrong here? |
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Radford
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| ImBetterDude wrote: | | At this level, I'm folding A 10 UTG +1 most of the time. Am I in the wrong here? |
I think this is an automatic raise here. Even early in a tourney, i would probably still raise here. |
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cowboyfan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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I like the raise pre-flop.
On the flop, the over card, over middle card, and two back door draws are probably not getting the right odds at 2.4-1. Unfortunately, I'm probably calling as I would give the bluff a bigger precentage than most (and I'm not good at laying the hand down).
I probably call and curse myself. |
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emmapeel
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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It's an 8 handed table so Harrington would call this more like middle position. He would also suggest raising looser with short stacks. I think HOH would suggest this is a raise here.
I'm raising too although I don't like AT much and understand if anyone wants to fold.
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Radford
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah. I'm not saying folding AT is bad here. I'm just saying i prefer a raise. |
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