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Shove this draw?

 
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Damien



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 456
Location: Donk Betting the Flop

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Shove this draw? Reply with quote

On the bubble here, 20 players left, 18 get paid. Is this an insta-shove?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t75)
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t10689
CO: t19106
Button: t2748
SB: t13025
Hero: t9396

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5 of Hearts 4 of Hearts
UTG folds, CO calls t600 (pot was t1275), 2 folds, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: Ace of Hearts 2 of Hearts 10 of Spades (t1875, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets t600, Hero ?
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toronexti
53o


Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 4242

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoving here doesn't make sense since you'd be pushing 8k into a 2.4k pot. Just raise to like 2-2.5k and call an AI. You should be able to take it down with that weak lead though. If you get called shoving the turn is perfectly fine.
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Damien



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 456
Location: Donk Betting the Flop

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that is the best line, thanx. I shoved and missed the draw. He had a pair on the flop.
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taz115
Hzamm9rd, Yo!!!


Joined: 08 Oct 2005
Posts: 8477
Location: Edmonton, Canada

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When choosing a line youhave to look at the size of the pot compared to the bet size that you choose. After the CO bets the flop the pot is 2475 and you shove in 8700. That is a huge overbet and it gives information about your range. It is not very likely that you would shove here if you had a strong made hand so your big overshove gives your opponent some information about your range.

As toro said, make a standard sized bet or raise and it will increase the chance that your opponent folds.
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