Set of aces deep stack

[Fumseck]

UTG Bandit is a relatively good player. He always opens for a raises and makes close to 100% cbet. When he goes all it's never on a cold stone bluff. He either has a big draw or a good made hand.

I started this post by putting my thoughts into it, but I took them out because I would like a new perspective on this hand.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $284.45 (284.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $214.20 (214.2 bb)
CO: $109.05 (109.1 bb)
BTN: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
SB: $116.20 (116.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with A A
UTG raises to $4, Hero raises to $14, 4 folds, UTG calls $10


Flop: ($29.50) A 6 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $21, UTG calls $21

Note:
I bet 3/4 of pot, which his my standard cbet. I almost always (95%) of the time) cbet against one opponent. Betting out with the nuts balances my range when I miss the board.


Turn: ($71.50) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $45, UTG raises to $249.45 and is all-in

1) How do you play the river?
I think I had to cbet, but maybe you don't agree.

2) Do you call the push?
You are getting 1.9 to 1 on the call (I only had 134.20$ left after the push).

[BigViking]

I'd bet a little bit bigger on flop and turn to set up a river push. Why wouldn't you call the turn raise? You think he calls your rr pre with 89 and floats OOP with a gutshot on the flop? No way if he's a good player as you state. He's got a set or AK here 600 times more often than 89.

[Llanlad]

Hi Fumseck .. its been a while !

Preflop is fine and the flop bet is ok too IMO ... I think the turn bet could be a little more but maybe villian has sensed this as possible weakness .. so i like the bet ..

I would also cbet this allmost allways .

Not sure whats the problem here ..... the only hand that has you beat is 89 ... and maybe only is plausable ... cant ever see villian having 89o here ..

Anything from 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, 67s, 78s or any two spades are possible ...

Not sure how you play the river as villian is all in on the turn

And anyone thinking of folding this on the turn should stop playing right now ..

This is either KA / set or a possible semi bluff with draws .... he might be holding KA and thinks you have the same and is trying to get you to fold it ...

Have to call ..

[nsidestrate]

This is nearly perfect, I think and you have a super-easy call. Probably with a fist-pump or cartwheel.

There is no river strategy to discuss unless someone else at the table wants to bet with you without cards, in which case I'd call him too.

You should probably bet slightly larger on the turn, not so much so you can shove the river, but to extract the max from flush draws. What is he going to pay you off here with? AK? If he has an underset, you will stack him on all not spade rivers.

Make no mistake, you want to get it all in here, every single time. You also want to punish the flush draw. With your betting pattern, you'd still have $134 into a pot of $160, so he can fold a hand like AK more easily. If you had bet pot-pot, you'd have more like $80 left into $270 which he might call if he got that far with AK.

At this point you are crushing everything he could hold but the straight and you still will fill up 25% of the time even if he somehow has 98 or 43, which should be quite infrequent.

[Fumseck]

I meant Turn... not river...

[Llanlad]

[nsidestrate]

[Fumseck]

Yes llanlad, long time... I have been taking it easy with poker lately. I am getting more serious into it.

I think I misplayed the hand on the Turn. Like Nside says, I should have bet more, because the board is very drawy. Not that it would have made a difference in this spot, my opponent had a made hand.

I thought it was an automatic call too, but was just wondering if my poker instincts were still good. I had never seen this opponent bluff, and I knew he had TPTK beaten. I figured that the only likely holding he had was a smaller set and had decided to extract the most value out of his hand.

He actually had 34o... I was dumbfounded when i saw this because he called a substantial raise preflop OOP and like I said, I had this opponent pegged as a good TAG (21/19 TAF3.5). This made me wonder on my hand reading skills... again...

I filled up on the river when a 6 appeared on the board.

[Fumseck]

[Llanlad]

hmmm 34o ... my hand reading skills are as good as ever then .. he had the only hand i did not mention

Nice pot though Fumseck .. if you ever want to river your boat in a $100nl game .. this pot would probably be one of them !

[doubleup]

34o was definitely amongst one of my top guesses! I read the post where the hand was posted right before I was gonna make my post with my 34o prediction! Seriously, this guy must've been bored...eerrrr, maybe this is his hand, errrr he's really good....errrr, he just got done reading Gus Handsen's book and wanted to be a hero.

[Scully]

I have to say that I had him pegged as 8s9s, AsKs or a lower set. Nothing else seemed plausible. Even 8s9s OOP is stretching things a little given villain's style.

34o?? Maybe he let his wife play the hand while he went to grab a beer!!

[blah730235]

Hm...I can only make two conclusions about villan from how this played out.

1. Villan is not a solid player

2. Villan opened UTG as a bluff and then had a soul read on hero of KK/AA. What's hero's 3bet range been while playing with this villan? If villan had such a read and being deep, calling preflop wouldn't be a bad move.

[emmapeel]

I like the continuation bet on the flop here.

Villain might call with a draw or a pair. villain may even have AQ or AJ. I agree it's a good cover for the other weaker continuation bets.

On the turn I would think this is an easy call. We are beating tons of hands. We have a lower set drawing to one out whilst we have about 10 against a better hand.

Better hands don't make too much sense anyway unless there was a flush draw to go with the straight.

This looks like a mistake post, but even if the turn put another spade on board I think it is still an easy call.


EP

[Damo_1]

Why not make a bigger PF 3bet? You are both deep so cut down his implied odds. On the flop I think I pot it everytime, there are too many draws out there to worry about and it makes it easier to get it in later. And yeah, getting it in on the turn is spot on imo.