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janeg Regina Canada
Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 5242 Location: Somewhere down the crazy river
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: Set facing all-in on Turn in early stages, connected board |
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Early in a $1.10 MTT, no real reads, table has been loose. What do you do here on the turn at this stage of the tourney?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00+$0.10 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop | saw showdown
Button (t1815)
Hero (SB) (t1615)
BB (t2830)
UTG (t1270)
UTG+1 (t640)
MP1 (t4570)
MP2 (t1700)
MP3 (t3705)
CO (t1260)
Preflop: Hero is SB with ,
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, 2 folds, MP3 calls t30, CO calls t30, Button calls t30, Hero calls t15, BB checks
Flop: (t180) , , (6 players)
Hero bets t150, 4 folds, Button calls t150
Turn: (t480) (2 players)
Hero bets t240, Button raises to t1635 (All-In), Hero ?? |
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the_hawk Chelsea FTW!
Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Posts: 4452
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Lots of two pair stuff and other crap here, instacall. |
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cowboyfan
Joined: 08 Mar 2005 Posts: 299 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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I probably would have check/raised the flop.
As played, I'm not folding here. Sure I'll be behind to 9T and AT some of the time, but even if so, I still have outs. No way am I folding at this point. |
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osmosis21 SuperDuperNova
Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 1893
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| hero sprains finger clicking the call button so hard. |
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PauliF Actuarial - tested and proven
Joined: 16 Jun 2004 Posts: 2825 Location: London
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| osmosis21 wrote: | | heroine sprains finger clicking the call button so hard. |
fyp and wholeheartedly agree |
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janeg Regina Canada
Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 5242 Location: Somewhere down the crazy river
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys. You'll be happy to hear I sprained my finger
cowboy, I thought about check-raising the flop, then decided a bet might get the money in quicker, was hoping for a raise from a draw, TP or 2pr hand. |
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Radford 2K Club
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 2757 Location: Sheffield, England
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I prefer a lead. With a king and jack out there, and flush draw, you're more likely to get a call. If you check-raise it screams out a monster. If you lead, villain may think you could just be leading out with a king or a jack. So villian might think his whatever is good. |
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emmapeel 2K Club
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2533 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: |
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I think I'd call this quickly.
Well, I usually think about it a bit first but any higher set might have raised pre-flop and if JJ did limp pre-flop then it might have re-raised the flop. AT doesn't make much sense unless it is suited with 2 hearts, possible though.
The re-raise all-in is much more consistent with a 2 pair hand: KQ or QJ maybe, or even a draw with a pair such as JT which might be of hearts.
With only a 50BB stack to start the hand I'm happy to get all my money in with a set here.
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emmapeel 2K Club
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2533 Location: Edinburgh
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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It is a bit of an awkward stack size for check-raising. I like the idea of betting the flop as it disguises the hand and makes things easier.
What happened? Did we all lose?
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janeg Regina Canada
Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 5242 Location: Somewhere down the crazy river
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:38 am Post subject: |
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Lost to ATo. At the time I figured KQ,KJ,QJ outweighed AT and called. Embarrassed to say I would have folded it before, this early vs stacking off I was fairly certain the call was the right move but wanted to double check  |
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