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mconstab
Joined: 13 Dec 2005
Posts: 385
Location: Warwickshire, UK
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 Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:05 am Post subject: Right to fold this river? |
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Villain is 33/10/2.2.
As this is a blind battle I don't like folding the flop as I have a pair. That being said the flop is not the best for my hand but I'm still ahead of a portion of villains range. As there's a whole host of cards I don't want to see on the turn should I actually just dump this on the flop?
I decided to call and the turn bricks off so I call again. The river Is bad in that some of his unimproved range now got there so I elect to fold. Getting 7 to 1 this is close on the river I think. Fold or call the river?
I don't like folding pairs on the flop HU but I'm actually thinking I should have folded this flop now I've looked at the hand again.
Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Pre Flop: Hero is SB with 6  : 6  :
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls
Flop: (6 SB) 7 : J  : 8 : (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls
Turn: (4 BB) 3  : (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls
River: (6 BB) Q : (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero folds |
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Willem
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Location: Netherlands
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| I hate folding pairs, but I also hate this board. I think I fold this, you only beat some Ax and Kx hands he would probably check behind on the river anyway. |
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mconstab
Joined: 13 Dec 2005
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Location: Warwickshire, UK
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| Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Willem wrote: | | I hate folding pairs, but I also hate this board. I think I fold this, you only beat some Ax and Kx hands he would probably check behind on the river anyway. |
And you feel pretty confident peeling this flop? |
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xrosswind
Joined: 13 Aug 2004
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Location: North Wales
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| mconstab wrote: |
And you feel pretty confident peeling this flop? |
I think flop and turn are fine, as Willem said lots of players check behind the river with Ax and Kx, so with two broad way cards on the board, check folding the river seems good to me. |
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superduperchick
Joined: 05 Aug 2008
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Location: Canada
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| Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| dep on my opponent most likely a fold , ya a fold |
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wade
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:33 am Post subject: |
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I would be inclinded to bet or c/r the flop to test it and hold on loosely after that (ok, I often check/ fold too  ) Check-calling down might be ok, but why did you give up?
IMO these are the kind of hands that set your image...esp b vs b. What kind of image does folding the river leave you with? What about check/calling and losing (or winning) showdown with 66?
Better yet, how about check raising the flop  |
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the_hawk
Chelsea FTW!
Joined: 13 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| All - what's the point of calling the turn if you're going to fold that river? It would seem that for this line there are probably 20 "outs" that would cause a river fold, so isn't the turn call pretty thin? |
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Cript
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Joined: 13 Feb 2004
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Location: Milwaukee, WI
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| Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| the_hawk wrote: | | All - what's the point of calling the turn if you're going to fold that river? It would seem that for this line there are probably 20 "outs" that would cause a river fold, so isn't the turn call pretty thin? |
With Hawk here, enough Ax hands will 3-bet pf to make this call worth while. |
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