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nsidestrate
The Shark
Joined: 26 May 2004
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 Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: Rake Comparison by Poker Site |
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This is an attempt to systematically compare the rake structures at all sites, using real world data. Obviously, the more data that we have for a particular limit, the more accurate it is. If you don't see published statistics for a particular site that means we don't have enough data to publish it yet. We want more data for every site. Post your data in this thread
In an attempt to make my life easier, I've automated the process of updating this data. I hope that the following spreadsheet image is readible. If not, I'll have to go with plan B.
I'm not sure I trust these numbers yet. I'm doing some fact checking and may update this graphic later tonight with better numbers.
The sites are sorted from lowest rake per 100 hands to highest rake per 100 hands. The second column calculates rake as a percentage of the pot size and the last column is the number of hands I have for that site/limit combination.
Obviously, if the amount of data is very low, the data is suspect. All the limits on the left are full ring and all the limits on the right are short-handed. I have some data for higher and lower limits and will probably assemble another screenshot with that data at some point in the not too distant future.
I'd still welcome more data points. Now that it is no longer so painful to assemble the data, I will probably be willing to update it more often.
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Bullajami
Uber Squid
Joined: 03 Sep 2004
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Location: Mrs. Bull's Doghouse
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Sierra Hotel work, my friend! |
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Mecil
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| Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Best. Post. Ever.
Many many thanks for compiling this and thanks to all who have contributed data to this survey. |
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Bullajami
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| nsidestrate wrote: | | Prima may also be the first site where rake as a percentage of pot size makes them more attractive. |
Prima caps their rake of .5/1 and $1/2 pots at $1.50.
.25/.50 pots are capped at $0.30. |
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kotsba
Joined: 15 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: pacific poekr |
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hi
from your post i can understand that you played in all the poker sites
i saw that pacific poker brought you a lot of money
do you think its a good site?
should i give it a try?
how much bonus they give for first deposit? |
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janeg
Regina Canada
Joined: 04 Oct 2004
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Location: Somewhere down the crazy river
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| nside, did you get all the stats posted in the linked thread? Asking because I had over 9k raked hands at $1/$2 6-max on Stars and your only showing 3k hands for that level. |
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nsidestrate
The Shark
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| janeg wrote: | | nside, did you get all the stats posted in the linked thread? Asking because I had over 9k raked hands at $1/$2 6-max on Stars and your only showing 3k hands for that level. |
It appears I never posted my updated results. I am seperated from the computer with that information at the moment, but I will upload it when I have back early this week. |
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janeg
Regina Canada
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Location: Somewhere down the crazy river
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| Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Great. Thanks for taking the time to do this; very useful  |
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Fumseck
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Joined: 17 Jun 2005
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Location: Quebec, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Nside,
Can you validate this for me?
Poker Stars 2/4 = 7.68$/100
Absolute 2/4 = 10.41$/100. If I have Rakeback 28%. I pay 7.49$/100
So PokerStars rake = Absolute + Rakeback rate. Right?
I just want to make sure I understand the numbers.
Thanks. |
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nsidestrate
The Shark
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes.
I still haven't updated the results apparently. I must remember that one of these days. |
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Fumseck
Cannuque
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| Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks!
That is food for thought!
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SlfMade
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CaliEd
Joined: 09 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject: Poker Room Rake |
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| I'm not entirely sure your stats are legit. I think it's probably because your sample sizes are too small. I have 8k of hands at PokerRoom, and my rake has only been $1.99/100 Hands. And we know that even 8k isn't that much. You shouldn't have posted this information unless you had more solid evidence to back it up. |
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fep
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| Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| CaliEd wrote: | | I'm not entirely sure your stats are legit. I think it's probably because your sample sizes are too small. I have 8k of hands at PokerRoom, and my rake has only been $1.99/100 Hands. And we know that even 8k isn't that much. You shouldn't have posted this information unless you had more solid evidence to back it up. |
Ed,
The tables are rake paid per average player. It has to be this way to make the site to site comparisons accurate.
If you play tighter than average you will pay less rake than listed.
So your post isn't misleading to anyone reading this thread, please calculate average rake per player and repost your results.
I apologize if you did calculate this correctly, if so send me your calculations and I'll double check them for you. Something is definitely haywire with your calc (or with the tables above) because your results are so different from what has been reported. |
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RiverCascade
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| Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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As soon as this is done being a hot topic, could I have Cyb move it to the PSRF? It would be listed in our alphabetical list. No rush, I'd just like to have it moved there when you're done adding new things. Would that be all right?
I feel like I'm building a new home, and shopping for furniture and interior decorations. 
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Nevermind.  I thought I was accessing it through an announcement in the General Forum. Sorry to interrupt. 
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