PLO8 Three barrels - What does he have?

[clabbers]

PokerStars Game #19820252706: Tournament #102283252, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/08/22 - 19:30:00 (ET)
Table '102283252 8' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: kidlat88 (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: layitdwnbaby (3000 in chips)
Seat 3: clabbers (3000 in chips)
Seat 4: halmarkkid (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: Kufoya (3000 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Daantje72 (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: LifeXtreme (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: Pinkster52 (3000 in chips)
layitdwnbaby: posts small blind 10
clabbers: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to clabbers [8h Ts 6d 9h]
halmarkkid: folds
Kufoya: folds
Daantje72: folds
LifeXtreme: raises 50 to 70
Pinkster52: calls 70
kidlat88: folds
layitdwnbaby: folds
clabbers: calls 50
*** FLOP *** [7h Qh Kc]
clabbers: checks
LifeXtreme: bets 220
Pinkster52: calls 220
clabbers: calls 220
*** TURN *** [7h Qh Kc] [4h]
clabbers: checks
LifeXtreme: bets 880
Pinkster52: folds
clabbers: calls 880
*** RIVER *** [7h Qh Kc 4h] [Ks]
clabbers: checks
LifeXtreme: bets 1830 and is all-in
?

[cowboyfan]

My guess would be AA2X, as he bet the pot the whole way down. It looks an awful lot like someone that doesn't know what they're doing in this game.

However, I don't play this game very often (very rarely TBH) and have no real experience to draw from.

[clabbers]

I put him on AA al the way. I'll troll for more more comments before posting the spoiler. I found out later that the player is #3 on the Silver ($10-$50 buyin tournaments) PokerDB list.

I found it quite puzzling that he was unaffected by the third heart on the turn and the paired board on the river.

[Willem]

How about folding this preflop? Most boards which give you nut wrap potential also put two low cards on the board (67x, 57x or 87x), in which case you'll be playing for half the pot. You flush draws are also not to the nuts.

[clabbers]

Defending your blind heads up never gives you less than 2-1 pot odds and that's pretty large at either form of Omaha. If no big blind already in, agreed, instamuck.

[osmosis21]

Disclaimer...Im more of a limit O8 player than pot limit, but on the first hand of the tournament (not knowing your opponents) I think this a pretty easy fold (I probably fold this even knowing my opponent. Its a super easy call if it was PLO, but I dont want to flop a wrap for half the pot...especially considering you are OOP...

My question is are you calling the flop solely on the strength of your flush draw or were you planning on trying to steal the pot away on safe cards?
FWIW I think I fold the flop anyways...I really feel that I can win other ppls chips in PLO8 without risking it all on this hand OOP

[clabbers]

My thinking at the time was twelve outs against aces.

[clabbers]

*** TURN *** [7h Qh Kc] [4h]
clabbers: checks
LifeXtreme: bets 880
Pinkster52: folds
clabbers: calls 880
*** RIVER *** [7h Qh Kc 4h] [Ks]
clabbers: checks
LifeXtreme: bets 1830 and is all-in
clabbers: calls 1830 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
LifeXtreme: shows [2h 6s 3d 7c] (HI: two pair, Kings and Sevens)
clabbers: shows [8h Ts 6d 9h] (HI: a flush, Queen high)
clabbers collected 6300 from pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6300 | Rake 0
Board [7h Qh Kc 4h Ks]
Seat 1: kidlat88 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: layitdwnbaby (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: clabbers (big blind) showed [8h Ts 6d 9h] and won (6300) with HI: a flush, Queen high
Seat 4: halmarkkid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Kufoya folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Daantje72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: LifeXtreme showed [2h 6s 3d 7c] and lost with HI: two pair, Kings and Sevens
Seat 9: Pinkster52 folded on the Turn

What a deceptive play. Representing overplayed aces!

Does his second pot bet on the turn make any sense if he has the nut flush?
(Well yes, if I'm calling with a non-nut flush)

Something gave me a strong enough feeling that he was bluffing to hang in there. I tanked quite a while on the river.

[jmbreslin]