PLO: Shortstacking hand #1

[Willem]

Short stacking PLO. I'm gonna do some math later.

Poker Stars
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $100.90
UTG+1: $24.70
MP1: $111.50
MP2: $46.80
MP3: $20.80
CO: $104.35
Button: $172.45
Hero: $18.85
BB: $494.65

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $2, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14.5, BB raises to $53, UTG+1 calls all-in $22.7, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls all-in $18.8, Hero calls all-in $4.35.

Flop: ($134.75, 2 players + 3 all-in - Main pot: $96.25, Sidepot 3: $56.6)
BB bets $170.85, MP1 calls all-in $58.5.
Uncalled bets: $112.35 returned to BB.

Turn: ($251.75, 1 player + 4 all-in - Main pot: $96.25, Sidepot 3: $173.6)


River: ($251.75, 1 player + 4 all-in - Main pot: $96.25, Sidepot 3: $173.6)


Results:
Final pot: $251.75

UTG+1:
MP1: (Won)
MP3:
Hero:
BB:

I'm only in contention for the main pot worth $96.25 of which I made a $18.85 contribution. This means I need 19.6% equity here to be EV+. Obviously, BB has AAxx here but I didn't know that at the time I was making my decision. Im going to run two scenario's. First, I'm going to see if my going all-in preflop was EV+, with BB having AAxx. Second, I'm going to take BB out of the equation and how that improves my situation.

Scenario 1:
Pot size: $96.25
Required equity: 19.6%
Actual equity: 24.2% (link)
Overlay: 4.6%
Total EV: 0.046 * $96.25 = $4.43

Scenario 2:
Pot size: $78.40
Required equity: 24.0%
Actual equity: 28.5% (link}
Overlay: 4.5%
Total EV: 0.045 * $78.40 = $3.53

[chillrob]

So it looks like your money went in good, even vs the AA hand, but could you realistically expect that many callers preflop? I don't play PLO at all, but I would think shortstacking it you would need to wait for a bigger hand than that to push.

I am curious about what your starting hand standards are like, and how your results are. I often short stack NL Holdem tables using Ed Miller's beginners NL strategy, but online tables are so tight that wins are extremely marginal. I would be curious to know how well it works in PLO.

Rob

[Willem]

I'm using the short-stacked strategy from Rolf Slotboom's PLO book. The idea is getting lots of dead money in the pot (the cold callers here) and then try to put all the money in, usually by limp-raising preflop, or check-raising after the flop. Hence my 20BB stack. I'm just starting out so I don't have any meaningful results.

I'm not sure my hand was actually strong enough here. is essentially 2 separate hands: and . The other combinations don't make much sense and will only make a winning hand by accident. Even a hand like would be much better since I now have two decent flush draws.

Here, after UTG+1 has raised (AAxx likely) and three players have called, I hope by raising, that everyone but one player folds and I can get the hand heads-up with a decent amount of dead money in the pot, compensating for any equity deficiency I might have. I'm going to look at several starting hands and see which one are good enough. I'm going to assume BB folds here and UTG+1 re-raises and everyone else folds. This will create a pot of $45.20 of which I contribute 41.7%. I'm also going to assume UTG+1 has the very same hand BB had: . I will be EV+ if my hand has over 41.7% equity.

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Of course, if villain is messing around with some kind of rundown hand, my QQxx will actually be a favorite.