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AlamedaMike
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: pain body and bad beats |
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We have all read about and been told how to deal with bad beats - e.g. emotions of playing poker.
We all know that if you put your money in when you have the best of it then win or lose everything is fine.
We know that some people, present company excluded, are still having issues with letting it go when some dork hits his runner runner inside straigth to crack your set (66 vs A4o on a 2Q6,5,3)   Less than 2% from the flop and I check raised.
This is a commercial - Oprah.com is running a series of web casts on Eckhart Tolle's new book. Now on ch. 6. The web casts are free on iTunes and her website.
This has helped me deal with negative emotions and if it helps anyone else, even a little, then great. |
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bohemian
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Both of ETs books are just great.... With respect to poker, your pain body will feed on it if you play with wrong intention. Unfortunately, most people's real intention is rather subconscious... and therefore continues to sabotage their play. |
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nsidestrate
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| Suited is into that. I've been making fun of her. I'm going to bummed if I actually like the stuff. |
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bohemian
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| nsidestrate wrote: | | Suited is into that. I've been making fun of her. I'm going to bummed if I actually like the stuff. |
Give it a shot, nsidestrate. A New Earth is a fabulous book, although a little slow in the beginning (I suggest you start on page 27). There are also some great ET vids on youtube. |
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nsidestrate
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:44 am Post subject: |
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| Where do you stand on "The Secret?" |
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bohemian
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| nsidestrate wrote: | | Where do you stand on "The Secret?" |
Worth a quick scan at the bookstore, but you are better off reading Wayne Dyer's "You'll See It When You Believe It" or Ernest Holmes's "Creative Mind and Success".
Btw, maybe the best illustration of a strong pain body playing poker is Mike Matusow at the 2004 WSOP, something that Matthew got to see in person. |
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nsidestrate
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| bohemian wrote: | | nsidestrate wrote: | | Where do you stand on "The Secret?" |
Worth a quick scan at the bookstore, but you are better off reading Wayne Dyer's "You'll See It When You Believe It" or Ernest Holmes's "Creative Mind and Success". |
My impression, based entirely on the addle-brained prattle I've heard from its proponants is that it is the worst kind of dreck. I was willing to give a pass to all the power of positive thinking-esque stuff until they told me that the alliance between thinking these thoughts and the attainment of the reality could be scientifically proven by quantum mechanics. In my experience, when people attempt to justify their mysticism with scientific nonsense, they are snake oil salesmen.
Suited assures me that the Ekhard Tolle stuff is more akin the Philosophy of Mind stuff she wasted her academic career on at UVa and I'm more willing to give it a go since she is a pretty bright cookie and has a fairly well-trained BS detector. Oprah, I'm not so sure of. |
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bohemian
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| nsidestrate wrote: | | bohemian wrote: | | nsidestrate wrote: | | Where do you stand on "The Secret?" |
Worth a quick scan at the bookstore, but you are better off reading Wayne Dyer's "You'll See It When You Believe It" or Ernest Holmes's "Creative Mind and Success". |
My impression, based entirely on the addle-brained prattle I've heard from its proponants is that it is the worst kind of dreck. I was willing to give a pass to all the power of positive thinking-esque stuff until they told me that the alliance between thinking these thoughts and the attainment of the reality could be scientifically proven by quantum mechanics. In my experience, when people attempt to justify their mysticism with scientific nonsense, they are snake oil salesmen.
Suited assures me that the Ekhard Tolle stuff is more akin the Philosophy of Mind stuff she wasted her academic career on at UVa and I'm more willing to give it a go since she is a pretty bright cookie and has a fairly well-trained BS detector. Oprah, I'm not so sure of. |
I spent about 10 years studying philosophy, from early teens to mid-20s. So I used to have a very intellectual approach to everything (i.e. "is it true?"...etc.). While I still have that to an extent, my attitude took a radical pragmatic turn: "true" things are those that are good for me and good for others. Things, teachings....etc. are evaluated in terms of their effects, rather than perceived values ("know by the fruits" is a good criterion). I will dump anything that doesn't pass the test.
I found the whole Philosophy of Mind is worth checking out (since it is pragmatically correct in its essential premise that what you hold in mind tends to manifest), but there are more worthwhile teachings that lead to better things.  |
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nsidestrate
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Its unfortunate for you that Paulif's position of favorite Buddhist is already occupied. I think he still has some of the lesser slots available.  |
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bohemian
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| nsidestrate wrote: | | Its unfortunate for you that Paulif's position of favorite Buddhist is already occupied. I think he still has some of the lesser slots available. |
It's in the nature of Zen to start as a beginner in each moment. |
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Bluedaq
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ZEN the Art of Archery is a great book
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"true" things are those that are good for me and good for others.. |
I read an interview by a card counter it just very eerie I would be interested in what you think of it.
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/ZGInterview.pdf
He seems to have no remorse and total lack of guilt and his Zen philosophy seems to have sharpen this |
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bohemian
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| Bluedaq wrote: | ZEN the Art of Archery is a great book
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"true" things are those that are good for me and good for others.. |
I read an interview by a card counter it just very eerie I would be interested in what you think of it.
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/ZGInterview.pdf
He seems to have no remorse and total lack of guilt and his Zen philosophy seems to have sharpen this |
He is a typical hustler. Not a Zen practitioner, but a New Ager. Most people use the word Zen without knowing what it is. For example, one of the foundations of Zen is ethics. You never hear that part from these people. |
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