Is this the correct time for Cbetting? Or is this just stand

[Da_Big_Fish]

Is this the correct time for Cbetting? Or is this just standard? Or was it just lame overall?

$0.05/$0.1 Pot Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG narvaez519 ($2.70)
UTG+1 Hero ($5.25)
MP1 wthr_dude ($4.85)
MP2 IFEC ($9.40)
MP3 Ironsides444 ($11.60)
CO Skills1981 ($5.40)
BTN xx El Grosso xx ($3.40)
SB MrYingYong ($11.05)
BB dodgy_rodgy ($3.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Skills1981 calls $0.35, xx El Grosso xx calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.20, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.60, 2 folds

Final Pot: $1.20

[Soultwister]

It's villain dependent, and vs two opponents, I need to know more before cbetting here. My default choice vs two opponents is to not cbet at all.

But if you cbet here, how much would you cbet vs 2 players with AA, JJ or 9T?

If I am going to cbet here, I'm going to cbet close to potsize, so probably around $1 or $1.1.

[blah730235]

Preflop is fine...

Cbetting the flop is pretty villan dependent. I'm going to break down some ideas for you as well as myself as i'm trying to cbet more inteligently.

The board is pretty dry so without any other information we know we are ahead more than we are if the board is corrodinated.

These guys could be calling preflop with a pocket-pairs or suited-conectors and will only proceed with further betting if they hit the flop with 2pair+ or good draw. Most of the suinted-connecotrs have missed this flop. If this is the situation where villans are set-mining us then I would bet/fold as we're taking it down more often than not but we don't want to keep betting since they probably have a good hand if they proceed.

Are these guys bad enough to call with hands like KJ, or A9? If you are playing a straight-forward TAG game then these guys should be dumping hands that you have dominated after your early open-raise, however are they? If they are not, then we have decent fold equity and showdown equity(showdown equity is hurt a bit by that jack on the board with this range) because even if they call us we might still be ahead and could get to showdown or they might fold because a decent amount of these type of hands have missed, if they might be playing dominated hands most of the time i'm betting as I don't want to give them an easy chance to bluff-bet me I want to make them have to bluff-raise me.

If villans chanllenge pots often with a wide range of hands then I'm probably going for a check-evaluate, if they bet at me after I check then i'm raising or folding depending on other reads I have, I'm hardly ever check-calling here tho.

Are these guys calling-stations with a wide range preflop even facing a raise? And if so what hand do they need to call on the flop? A pair? or will they float you with their entire range?

If we are cbetting how much should we bet? Against a smarter opponent I'm betting 3/4s the pot most of the time if i'm going to bet. Against a weak player whom has a wide PFR calldown range and then on the flop will fold with air but call down with a pair+ hand i'm betting 1/4 - 1/3 the pot hoping to take it down cheaply, however betting that small of an amount against a thinking player is asking for a raise.

How often will these guys give a free card and with what range will they give a free card with? Can we possibly check the flop and be somewhat certain that if they have air they will check-behind on the flop and therefore I can bet the turn? Or will they try to trap with a set? What of straight draws will they take a free card or bet? If villans will only bet with a decent hand and will check with air then we defintaly want to check as villans are going to tell us their hands and we can just take it down on the turn.

Another thought is that we are oop so we are less likely to get to see the turn and river for free. Where as if we cbet in position, then it is checked to us on the turn pretty often and we can check and see the river. It is not as important to worry about whether we get to see the turn and river with a hand say like 27 because even if we hit a pair we can still be behind a decent amount of the time but with AK it's obviously different because a pair is much stronger there.

AK is a pretty strong hand but I think we need to remeber that we are raising preflop for value because we have a good chance of hitting TPTK once we whif the flop the value dramtically drops and we only have non-pocket-pair hands that have missed beat. This is much different than pocket face cards as they have value the entire way through a hand.

Sorry for the length but i needed to process some thoughts...

[emmapeel]

With only two opponents I think a continuation bet should be ok here. There is also no flush draw and the board looks good in other ways too. I think this is worth a bet unless both villains are very aggressive.

EP

[bb88]

I c-bet here for $1.00. First of all, I think $1.00 looks more intimidating than $.90 and it might be a psychological thing, but it seemed to work for me.

Also, it's about what I would bet had I really hit the flop, too. So if they're sitting there with a 66 or something they missed their setmine with, then they'll have to think of folding.

With two opponents though, you have to careful they aren't loose preflop, or I think a check/fold is in order (nothing at all wrong with that option, however).