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chillin411
Joined: 22 Jan 2005
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 Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: ICM Calculators |
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Just for those who are getting started with ICM, it's probably a good idea to post the links to a few ICM calculators out there, so you aren't stuck doing it all out by pen and paper.
The first one is the one most people use, written by dethgrind from 2+2:
http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~sharnett/ICM/ICM.html
This one has a good explanation of ICM, it's run in javascript so it's quite fast, and there's a lot of nice additional material.
I've also written one myself:
http://www.chillin411.com/icmcalc.php
While I don't have much of the math or discussion, mine works for the multi-table SnGs as well as the single table ones, and I think mine's prettier 
Just thought I'd share the two, so we both have the links in a central location, and those who are looking to learn ICM can start fiddling around with them. |
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osmosis21
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Joined: 22 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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What is ICM?
Nevermind......I just realized I can read.... |
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nsidestrate
Suited's Love Monkey
Joined: 26 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| This is an outstanding tool. Thanks for sharing it. |
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chrisjp
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Location: Round Rock, TX and Las Vegas
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Definitely the prettiest! I'm using this one from now on. Thanks--
Chris |
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jrspm
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Location: London
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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I was looking for something like this the other day when I stumbled upop this post.
Thanks! |
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SRH
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Chillin...many thanks. You're right, it IS prettier. 
It works pretty well, too. Thanks again for putting this up. |
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SirNicksolot
Joined: 09 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry for being so ignorant. When and how do I use this? Are there some articles out there I could read? |
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mke182b
Joined: 09 Jul 2004
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Location: London, UK
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| Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Im also unsure as to how and what this program does...anyone care to elaborate?
thanks |
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Ramble
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| Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| mke182b wrote: | Im also unsure as to how and what this program does...anyone care to elaborate?
thanks |
This explanation might explain it a bit. |
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Mecil
Joined: 20 Nov 2004
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Location: Torshavn
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| Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| Great thread, this is good stuff. Been grumbling about the lack of true math on poker |
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Icall
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Joined: 20 May 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| If I understand this correctly it is basically a method of post play analysis then? Is there anyone who can plug in all the relevant data within the 30 seconds given to act? |
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SRH
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| Icall wrote: | | If I understand this correctly it is basically a method of post play analysis then? Is there anyone who can plug in all the relevant data within the 30 seconds given to act? |
In a word, yes. Sometimes, in NL tourneys, you make calls which will double you up or send you home (as you well know...no patronizing intended).
ICM can help you analyze whether or not your call, of what is usully an all-in situation, was correct. |
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MrFixxiT
Joined: 01 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for this answer on lcall's question as I had the same question.
I read all these things to calculate and weigh (not only this ICM thing) and most of the times I think how one would be able to do all that in the time that he has.
Sometimes the situation even asks for a quick response and no real analysis can be done at all and it's all up to judgment by experience IMO. |
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nsidestrate
Suited's Love Monkey
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| Although you certainly can't do the ICM calculations in your head, you can spend time playing around with different situations and learn some interesting things. You will find that there are situations where you should call with damn near any two cards and fold with damn near any two cards. Once you've run a lot of these, you will find that you recognize situations live. I see people fold all the time in late stages of SnGs to a reraise all-in when there is absolutely no chance they should fold even if they had 72o. |
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MrFixxiT
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| Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 5:40 am Post subject: |
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| certainly interesting indeed. |
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