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How sure do you have to be to fold this on the river?

 
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Da_Big_Fish
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:55 pm    Post subject: How sure do you have to be to fold this on the river? Reply with quote

I believe that unless I am almost 100% certain, and maybe that's not even good enough, I pay this off, right?

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10 players
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Pre-flop: (2.4 SB, 10 players) Hero is MP1 Jack of Diamonds King of Diamonds
2 folds, LockportSlim calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, montanawin raises, MPG77 checks, 1 fold, PETODAD calls, builderdrd checks

Flop: King of Spades 4 of Diamonds Jack of Clubs (6.0 SB, 6 players)
PETODAD checks, builderdrd checks, LockportSlim checks, Hero bets, MPG77 calls, PETODAD calls, builderdrd folds, LockportSlim folds

Turn: 2 of Clubs (4.5 BB, 4 players)
PETODAD checks, Hero bets, 1 fold, PETODAD calls

River: 7 of Clubs (6.5 BB, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO raises, SB 3-bets, BB folds, Hero folds, MP2 4-bets, CO CAPS, SB calls

Final Pot: 8.5 BB


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akaerock



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 2 hands in STTs that busted me the same way. It seems like pot size bets cant chase away flush or straight draws.

Almost people call down with any draw just to collect the FPP's. Thats how it use to be on Bugsys Club.
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osmosis21
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is the river action (but Im seeing a showdown if I bet and he raises against an unknown)
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Da_Big_Fish
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I've included the action for the river. Some reason I didn't copy it.

Also:

I am trying to understand the concept of Value Betting more. In this hand is there any point where I should have made a bet I didn't?
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Misunderstud
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you led every street, so you certainly didn't miss a value bet Wink

Flop and turn are straightforward. If you check the river it gives a lot of worse hands that would have called you the chance to check behind, so it seems to me that bet/call 1 raise is the best way to go there. A raise and a reraise looks like more than 2pr to me, though, so I'd take the same line as you did.
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Bugsbunny
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raise preflop.
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