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Doc T River
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 Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:41 am Post subject: Future of 2plus2 Publishing |
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In a thread over at the 2plus2 forum, Mason posted that they are thinking about cutting back or exiting the book business. His stated reason was that he feels the current 2plus2 books cover virtually every area of poker.
Is this the real reason or is it because a lot of authors previously published by 2plus2 evidently don't want to work with the company, or the company doesn't want to work with them, anymore?
Miller, Mehta, and Flynn wrote a book, were supposed to write a follow up, but that is not going to happen at 2plus2.
Stoxtrader wrote a book, was supposed to write a follow up, but that is not going to happen.
2plus2 had a chance to publish a follow up to Jeff Hwang's Omaha book (published by Lyle Stuart), but it is going to be a DIMAT book.
So is the real reason what Mason stated or is it due to lack of willing authors, lack of product? The only book currently even being contemplated is a new Dan Harrington book and that won't be out until sometime in 2009. |
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Stew21
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Wait a minute.
Wasn't something said earlier this year that they had a 2-year supply of books over there?
What happens to that supply if they get out of the book business?
Do they just throw them all away? |
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Doc T River
Joined: 21 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Stew21 wrote: | Wait a minute.
Wasn't something said earlier this year that they had a 2-year supply of books over there?
What happens to that supply if they get out of the book business?
Do they just throw them all away? |
I would imagine that they would release no new books and just keep selling their existing stock until it is gone. |
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clabbers
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I notice that it says "banned" under Matt Flynn's name on his existing posts. They didn't kill his threads, but they won't let him post any more. |
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Doc T River
Joined: 21 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| clabbers wrote: | | I notice that it says "banned" under Matt Flynn's name on his existing posts. They didn't kill his threads, but they won't let him post any more. |
Yes, Matt has been banned from posting on 2plus2. Matt, Ed, and Sunny were still trying to negotiate their release from 2plus2 and the disagreement between the authors and Mason came out due to something that Mason posted. Matt defended himself and ended up being banned. |
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Doc T River
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: |
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I was wrong when I stated Mason had indicated they were thinking about exiting the publishing business. This was another poster interpreting something Mason said in the 2plus2 magazine.
What Mason said in the magazine was that [paraphrasing] while they expected to be in the business for years to come, they were thinking about cutting back their publishing schedule. |
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Taardvark
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Doc T River wrote: | I was wrong when I stated Mason had indicated they were thinking about exiting the publishing business. This was another poster interpreting something Mason said in the 2plus2 magazine.
What Mason said in the magazine was that [paraphrasing] while they expected to be in the business for years to come, they were thinking about cutting back their publishing schedule. |
What? No more books on limit hold em strategy covering information that has been in 3,000 previous books? |
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Wannabe1ProPlayer
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Location: Champaign, IL
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| If I were looking for a 2p2 book for NL microstakes, where should I start? |
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Cript
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| Wannabe1ProPlayer wrote: | | If I were looking for a 2p2 book for NL microstakes, where should I start? |
Not here... |
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Taardvark
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| Wannabe1ProPlayer wrote: | | If I were looking for a 2p2 book for NL microstakes, where should I start? |
I don't know of one by any of their authors. I actually don't know of any in general. In general if you find a NL book that discusses NL200 games that roughly translates to NL25 games online. |
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Doc T River
Joined: 21 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:41 am Post subject: |
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| Wannabe1ProPlayer wrote: | | If I were looking for a 2p2 book for NL microstakes, where should I start? |
I think the basics of poker apply to any level. That said, there are no books written specifically and solely for microstakes. Your best bet is to take a look at forums which have sections devoted to that level. |
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Doc T River
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: 2plus2 Books for 2009 |
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Mason has posted that there will be another Harrington/Robertie book in 2009, but before that will be a previously undisclosed book by undisclosed authors. In the thread over on 2plus2, Mason said that people are free to speculate. Gee, how magnanimous. I guess people are not free to speculate without Mason's permission? Sorry, but I think I am free to think without anyone's permission.
As to the book, I am guessing David Sklansky will be involved with it given that it has not been previously disclosed and Mason said it is far along in the process. It would make sense that it has to be a book by authors with a history with 2plus2, lives close to 2plus2's offices, and has to be someone who has not had a falling out.
Most of the 2plus2 authors, with the notable exceptions of , Dan Harrington, Bill Robertie, Collin Moshman and David Sklansky, seem to have had a falling out of some sort or another with 2plus2.
Miller, Mehta, and Flynn were supposed to do a follow up to their 2plus2 book, but that won't be happening. Nick Grudzien was supposed to do a follow up to his 2plus2 book, but he had a falling out. Alan Schoonmaker has never written another 2plus2 published book despite his landmark Psychology of Poker.
It will be interesting to see what the book is about and who the authors are. |
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nsidestrate
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: 2plus2 Books for 2009 |
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| Doc T River wrote: | | Miller, Mehta, and Flynn were supposed to do a follow up to their 2plus2 book, but that won't be happening. |
According to Ed's most recent blog, he is almost done with the Mehta collaboration, but he doesn't say who will publish it (only that he has a preliminary plan). I assume that the 4 cents cheaper in China is a dig on 2+2, but I don't know.
I have no idea who the other book's author will be. Could be another Stox book, I'd think. |
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Doc T River
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| Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: 2plus2 Books for 2009 |
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| nsidestrate wrote: | | Doc T River wrote: | | Miller, Mehta, and Flynn were supposed to do a follow up to their 2plus2 book, but that won't be happening. |
According to Ed's most recent blog, he is almost done with the Mehta collaboration, but he doesn't say who will publish it (only that he has a preliminary plan). I assume that the 4 cents cheaper in China is a dig on 2+2, but I don't know.
I have no idea who the other book's author will be. Could be another Stox book, I'd think. |
I am not sure that the 4 cents cheaper thing was a dig at 2plus2 because the most recent 2plus2 book, which I finally broke down and bought, is Moshman's Heads-Up book and it shows it was printed by a company in Nevada.
I don't think that Stox is likely to be the other author unless they patched things up. As I remember Mason was pretty upset when Stox decided to not write the follow up to his first book and instead focus on his training site, Stoxpoker. |
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