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Folding top pair to turn check raise

 
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Harlequin99



Joined: 27 Mar 2005
Posts: 233

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: Folding top pair to turn check raise Reply with quote

I thought I had already posted this but it seems to have been eaten.

I have played 211 hands with the Villian and he is 32/20/2.5. He check raises 29% on the flop and 29% on the turn. His 3-bet range is 7% from 58 samples.
He has 3-bet a steal (from button or CO) once from 4 samples on SB.

In the hand I could not figure what I beat after his flop continuation bet and turn check raise - this feels extremely strong. I can't see what hand he would play like this (he is not an idiot) that I beat and there are many hands I am drawing dead to. Correct fold given the information? Possibly he has a weaker ace but his line was just so strong...

2.5/5 Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($71.50)
CO ($114.25)
Hero (BTN) ($227.25)
SB ($132.75)
BB ($300.66)

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 5 players) Hero is BTN Ace of Clubs 10 of Clubs
2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls

Flop: 3 of Spades Ace of Hearts King of Diamonds (7.5 SB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

Turn: 9 of Hearts (4.8 BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero folds

Final Pot: 7.8 BB

SB wins 7.2 BB ( won +3.2 BB )
Hero lost 3.0 BB
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nsidestrate
The Shark


Joined: 26 May 2004
Posts: 25334

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a really odd line. My initial instinct is the same as yours -- this has to be at least AK, more likely a set.
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Harlequin99



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsidestrate wrote:
That is a really odd line. My initial instinct is the same as yours -- this has to be at least AK, more likely a set.


It just slightly bugged me after. I don't often fold a decent top pair HU, especially when no draws have come in. I would have to win this hand about 20% of the time (2 BB to win 8.8BB) to make this profitable: will he have Ax or trash often enough to make this happen? Hmm...
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janeg
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like 2 pair or a set. Could be he 3-bet A9 PF, led the flop w/the Ace and, given you called, went for the check-raise when the 9 hit as it doesn't look dangerous.
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nsidestrate
The Shark


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing is that if he just comes bet bet bet, I probably call him down.
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janeg
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people just like check-raising; could be he thought Hero wouldn't fold an Ace or King HU.
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thew92
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice disciplined fold here. This is a call down if it goes bet bet bet.
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