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Skrotnisse



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: flushed Reply with quote

Is this always a call? Or could/would you sometimes fold thinking that you might be up against a stronger flush draw (drawing dead) and the other times you will often be up against a few strong flush cards that discounts your outs and gives your oponents strong redraws.

3/6, 6 players

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with 3 8
2 folds, CO calls 3.00, Button calls 3.00, SB calls 1.50, Hero checks.

Flop (12.00) K 5 2
SB bets 3.00, Hero calls 3.00, CO raises to 6.00, Button calls 6.00, SB raises to 9.00, Hero ?
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Willem
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bigger flush draw is possible but that might be a bit fearing monsters under the bed. I'm not folding here by I'm proceeding very carefully. If you hit the flush and someone raises you, you should probably stop giving more action and check-call down. Also be careful if the board pairs.

I like your initial flatcall btw, you have nothing to gain by raising here.
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Skrotnisse



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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 people showing a very active interest on this board. They canīt all have Kx!

5x and 2x is very unlikely (considering their action) 43 and A4, A3 also pretty unlikely with their action. So what do you put all players on? If we are lucky SB bet/3bets top pair, CO raises 2 people with top pair too and button cold calls with??? a crappy Ax draw?

Of course a set is a possibility but against a set and a couple of diamonds out there we are not doing to hot.

Even though, you may be right. Itīs just that if you look closely at this board we are not doing all that great.
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Willem
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skrotnisse wrote:
Even though, you may be right. Itīs just that if you look closely at this board we are not doing all that great.


You might be right too. You have invested just 2BB now so if you really feel your drawing dead, now is the time to bail. I do remember folding a similar hand a long time ago but that was in FR where people's ranges are far tighter when they show aggression. Would be a heroic fold though Wink.
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