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Did I play this ok or did I miss something?

 
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Da_Big_Fish
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:37 pm    Post subject: Did I play this ok or did I miss something? Reply with quote

I lost this, but did I play it right?
My thoughts are in dark blue.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with Ace of Spades Ace of Diamonds

WOOT!

5 folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, Hero raises to $0.3, BB folds, CO calls, Button calls.

3-4x is still the way to go, correct? So, $0.30


Flop: 10 of Clubs 4 of Spades 8 of Clubs ($1, 3 players)
Hero bets $0.5, CO folds, Button raises to $1.5, Hero raises all-in $2.6, Button calls.

Perhaps I should have lead out with a full pot bet instead of only 1/2. I guess I had the right idea to raise to protect my hand against a flush draw, but it should have been more. He raises me. I put him on a pair of tens, however since he is in the SB T8 is possible too. I never thought about a set at all. Sad I still felt like I was up against top pair on the board so I pushed.

Turn: King of Diamonds ($6.2, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $6.2)


River: 9 of Spades ($6.2, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $6.2)


Results:
Final pot: $6.2

He shows that which I didn't consider. After his reraise, should I have just called and then check/called the rest of the way down?
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Taardvark
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

preflop with a limper I'd go to at least .40. Also, I'm going to be OOP so I'd probably go to .5.

Although you don't have chip stacks here (important information), it looks like you are rather short since your push was only 2.6. by betting .5 preflop you essentially make the flop bet a pot sized bet.

You started this hand with only 26 BB so getting all your chips in here is the right play. That you were up against a set is irrelevent long term and unlucky.
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Da_Big_Fish
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I really don't have the bankroll to be playing .10PL., but a player I know gave me $10 on FTP to try it out. So, I knew going in I would be under-financed. Their limit games start at .25/.50 and $10 is like 1 buy in there. Figured I had a better chance at .05/.10 PL to build up that $10 quickly. I'd play lower if they offered it.

I had almost doubled up when I hit this hand and another took me down to $8.60. I figure I would play $5 tonight and hope I run good and if not then go "short stacking" with my $3.60 I have left.

If I run in anymore hands I want you guys to look over I'll try and remember to enable the stack sizes.
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emmapeel
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems like Hero has a short stack here with 30ish big blinds worth of money. With a hand as strong as AA it is likely that all of Hero's money will go in the pot in just about any situation. It is only with a bigger stack of say 100BB that I would be concerned that my AA hand might not be good at some point. One pair is usually not worth a 100BB stack but certainly worth a 30BB stack.

Pre-flop I would raise a bit bigger because of the situation. The usual formula is to add a bet for every limper to a standard raise. Here we have 2 limpers so 3+2 = 5BB. I would also add a bet due to the fact that we will be out of position post-flop. In total I think I am raising about 6BB here.

On the flop either villain may have a flush draw or a minor straight draw or maybe just a pair. I think I would raise a bit bigger than half the pot here. If in doubt then raise 2/3 of the pot as one book says. I think I'm raising about 3/4 of the pot due to the possible draws out there.

After getting re-raised I wouldn't think too much. Villain is effectively putting me all-in and may have a lot of things here. TT or 88 might have raised pre-flop so the only big worries are 44 or T8 suited I think. I'm just going to push all-in here too.

EP
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