chop

[Skrotnisse]

Bad river call? I guess we need to call some rivers, but i guess we will have enough Ax here.

So anyway, how does the math for a river call work here. we need to be best 1/5.5 = 18% of the time. And since we are calling most often for a chop (if he doesn´t have a PP maybe) we need to divide by 2? and so he needs to have a chop ~10% of the time. Is that right?

2/4 Limit Holdem
6 players

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 6 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold

Flop: (5.0 SB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls

Turn: (3.5 BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (3.5 BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

[Willem]

I'm always calling this river. He can easily be bluffing here, or even valuebetting a worse pair. I pretty much never fold a pair after I check behind the turn.

[Skrotnisse]

Excellent. So how´s my math?

[mconstab]

I play it the same although are we really good around 20% of the time here?

[Willem]

Yes, you need to be good 18%. And if you know for certain you have a chop a best, then you need to be good more often. But you will scoop here often enough. Maybe make it 15%.

But you have 2nd pair after you make a value check. Why complicate such an easy decision? LHE is not a game where you make expert laydowns.

[Skrotnisse]

Oh, now I see it should actually be closer to 30% since it´s often a chop.

And to answer your question Willem. I don´t think this is so marginal. Not so many river bluffs makes it through this flop. And if we fold our worst kings here I don´t think it´s like we get a huge target on our backs. I think the fact that we chop with any K makes a difference. However I get what you are saying and it is important to see a lot of showdowns!