Chasing a draw

[Scully]

At what point is everyone folding here?

$0.1/$0.2 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG winamax123 ($26.95)
UTG+1 malrouxx ($23.51)
CO metal87 ($16.73)
BTN sebapoker87 ($9.99)
SB jeanline ($26.83)
BB Scully77 ($20.60)

Pre-flop: ($0.30, 6 players)
2 folds, metal87 raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Scully77 raises to $1.90, metal87 calls $1.30

Flop: ($3.90, 2 players)
Scully77 checks, metal87 bets $2, Scully77 calls $2

Turn: ($7.90, 2 players)
Scully77 checks, metal87 bets $4, Scully77 calls $4

River: ($15.90, 2 players)
Scully77 checks, metal87 bets $6, Scully77 calls $6

Final Pot: $26.90
metal87 shows:
Scully77 shows:

metal87 wins $26.90 ( won +$13.00 )
Scully77 lost -$13.90

[Soultwister]

Can you explain your 3bet sizing here? And your reasoning to 3bet?

Villain raised 3xBB, giving you pretty good odds to just call here. A7s is still a hand you really should not mind seeing a flop with first, and if villain opens to 3xBB from the CO, I would profit from it with a larger range than I would normally call with.

But your 3bet size here is below potsize, and you will be playing OOP. Do you not want to charge villain a bit more for playing in a 3bet pot IP vs you?

As played, I would CR on the flop here vs regulars, and cbet vs most others, but that's probably beause my cbet frequency is not that high in 3bet pots, even with good hands vs a LP defender.

So as played I would consider two options here, check-raise or bet-3bet. And getting it in should I bet-3bet. The reason for the bet/3bet line is because this flop looks so easy to bluffraise, yet a 3bet will put tons of pressure on marginal overpairs/1 pair + gutshot kind of hands. The reason to CR is because non-regs will not realize my play does not make much sense often. But I play JJ/QQ the same there vs a non-reg.

As played though, I do not like the call much on the flop, especially with villain only betting half-pot on such a connected board. I really prefer a CR here OOP.

Turn: As played, I think a fold is fine here. Your hand will be really face-up as a 7 should you checkcall here again.

River: I prefer a pretty decent bet here, which with these remaining stack sizes would be an open shove. The A is a scarecard which does not make that much sense for your range, so you may get looked up easier, but I really hate a hands like 9's or even JJ to check behind here. So as played, I am shoving here for value all the time. Stack sizes are good for it,so this is a spot to decide whether to value bet or not.

[Taardvark]

Preflop without any reads on villian I'd fold. If I read it as a steal I will mix up calling and throwing in a raise. I agree with Soultwister that your 3bet is too light. You should be thinking in the $2.50-$2.75 range here.

The flop is a sucker flop for you. Again I think Soultwister is spot on with the line here. This kind of flop almost always takes away your 7 as a backdoor out because it will fill a lot of other hands.

Turn is a pretty good place to fold with how things have played out. As played it's pretty obvious you are on a draw.

I think a check call on this river is okay. I'm not really concerned with the flush draw since it's backdoor but at this level you could be up against an equally bad naked ace that has hit this board for two pair and will bet for value.

All in all, I would be very selective about playing naked aces, especially out of position and if you do play them, more aggression is needed.

[BigViking]

You'll save a lot of money not reraising hands with serious potential for negative implied odds. I reraise a lot, but A7 is right down there at the bottom of the list of hands of doing it with. Folding preflop is probably best, but calling isn't horrible if you're comfortable postflop.

[Taardvark]

[Scully]

With regard to the 3 bet - this was not done as a value 3 bet, it was done basically as a bluff to take the pot down PF. I've learnt that I need pretty decent circumstances to value 3 bet AQ, never mind A7!! I didn't want to see a flop with A7.

I don't have villain's stats to hand, but one thing I have been doing lately is 3 betting aggressive LP openers with pretty much anything - like 64 as Taardvark suggested. If called in this particular hand I'm checking an A high flop and probably folding to bet - unless it's so small as to give me legitimate implied odds to hit the 7 as well (which might not even be possible). Depending on the situation I might c/r TPWK on the flop depending on how loosely villain calls 3 bets and how often they c-bet. In summary - I know A TPWK hand is weak and I'm not going broke with it. I may try to outplay villain on the flop but if he shows strength there I'm done with this and moving on to the next hand.

In fact, given the villain's actual hand, a 3 bet here SHOULD get rid of him with 76s. I agree I need to 3 bet more - my standard now in this situation having read these responses is to raise a further 3x the opening raise - ie in this example to $2.40

However, having been called, he has a hand I have to assume - probably an overpair to this board you would assume, so then I'm playing straight pot odds/implied odds of completing the OESD.

If we changed the example here to me having called PF, or having 77 rather than A7, what would the responses be???

[jaydreb]

[emmapeel]

I'm probably not re-raising with this out of position pre-flop. I think even on the button I would need a good reason to re-raise.

Tough to know what to do on the flop as it looks like a flop where a C/B might get re-raised. Check-raising is an option I think as this play is unlikely to get raised again unless villain is really strong.

Probably folding the turn as my draw is weaker now with less implied odds.

River is tough too but I may fold this even though it is a small bet.

EP