Case for chip dumping?

[akaerock]

I cant figure out what these two players was thinking, Looks like chip dumping to me. What does everyone think of this hand?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t150/t300
(Ante: t25)
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t13224
UTG+1: t23333
MP1: t5222
MP2: t11809
Hero: t6747
Button: t4455
SB: t13140
BB: t7740

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is CO with
UTG calls t300 (pot was t650), 3 folds, Hero folds, Button folds, SB calls t150 (pot was t950), BB checks.

Flop: (t1100, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets t300, SB calls t300 (pot was t1400), BB folds.

Turn: (t1700, 2 players)
SB checks, UTG bets t300, SB calls t300 (pot was t2000).

River: (t2300, 2 players)
SB bets t2000, UTG raises to t4000, SB raises all-in t12215, UTG calls t8215 (pot was t18515).

Results:
Final pot: t26730
SB showed 8h 6d
UTG showed 3h Js

[maf66]

Pretty bad plays by both of them, but doesn't necessarily mean chip dumping.

I would suggest you contact Stars support and ask them to investigate.

[akaerock]

I emailed Poker Stars about this, they replied quickly saying they are investigating both players past history.

I just cant believe either player would risk their tournament live on the hands they were playing. I can see the guy with J3 maybe calling. But the 86 throwing out a 12k bluff to end your tournament?

I guess I thought it was chip dumping because this is something I would never do.

[taz115]

There are plenty of bad players out there. I think there is about no chance this is chip dumping. If you wanted to dump chips you fold to the push on the end and never show down your hand.

[chrisjp]

I agree with taz. I've seen worse play than this. I saw one guy make a bet on the end, a large bet, and the other guy put him all in. In fact the original bettor had 100 chips behind to call a 5700 chip pot. Pretty good odds to call. He folded. What????

Well here's the deal. This was not online--it was live at a WSOP prelim event. They were clearly not together and the poor guy that folded actually had a hand that could beat a bluff. Terrible fold, but it happens.

PokerStars will check it. They are good about this. And you'll get a response.

Chris

[akaerock]

Poker Stars investigated both players history and assured me no collusion was involved.

I guess this hand got me scratching my hand because both players played this terrible, also last night I never seen the flush draw, just the insane shove.

[nsidestrate]

If it was chip dumping, you would never have seen a showdown.

[TwoDuXX]

I see this as a possible made flush bluff by both, or just bad play.

DuXX

[toronexti]

Also 1 guy is UTG and the other is SB, limping UTG to chimp dump is stupid* when you can wait a hand and have UTG be BB and SB be OTB and have a much easier chip-dumping scenario.

*I hope stupid doesn't offend anyone.