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chrisjp
Mr. Lovable
Joined: 03 Jun 2004
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Location: Round Rock, TX and Las Vegas
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 Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: Bubble Aggression gone wild in the 2K NL |
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2K NL 199 players remain; 198 get paid....then this hand:
From WSOP
In a shocking display of reckless aggression at the bubble, the following hand occurred: An early-position player raised to 4,400 and Vincent Dulac raised to 16,400. Dulac's opponent then reraised all in and Dulac instantly called. Dulac held AA and his opponent held 74o   ...... no suck out and everyone else is In The Money!!!
There are two sayings that are very applicable to poker. The first is, "Aggressive poker is winning poker." The other is, "Speed kills."
This would be hard to believe if I hadn't already played in several of these events. 
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nukeduke
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh yeah, sometimes re-stealers actually have a hand.......... |
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emmapeel
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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The 7 high push may have been correct but just badly timed. Villain may have correctly assessed the range of his opponent and what % of this would fold to a push. Villain may have been unlucky to walk into AA here.
I've no idea off course. Live play does seem like fun so maybe I'll play that someday.
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ImBetterDude
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I think tournament strategy might change a bit when you're on the bubble in a two thousand dollar buy in event with 200 people left in the field. Instead of looking for opportunities to resteal from the SB with 7 4 offsuit, I'd probably be thinking about NOT being the very next person out of the tournament. Granted, the guy with AA from the button probably did have a wide range, but this is not the time to be attempting to put a stop to it. Try again on the next orbit when you're guaranteed to have $2600 in your pocket. |
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SpaceLord
Joined: 03 Mar 2008
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Location: CO
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| ImBetterDude wrote: | | I think tournament strategy might change a bit when you're on the bubble in a two thousand dollar buy in event with 200 people left in the field. Instead of looking for opportunities to resteal from the SB with 7 4 offsuit, I'd probably be thinking about NOT being the very next person out of the tournament. Granted, the guy with AA from the button probably did have a wide range, but this is not the time to be attempting to put a stop to it. Try again on the next orbit when you're guaranteed to have $2600 in your pocket. |
Many player don't "need" 2000. They want the big money at the end. These players accumulate quite a few chips during the bubble period. Fear is the mind killer. |
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chrisjp
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| Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| SpaceLord wrote: | | Many player don't "need" 2000. They want the big money at the end. These players accumulate quite a few chips during the bubble period. Fear is the mind killer. |
True enough. Elmo quoted yankees31 as saying, "I don't mind busting on the bubble with a big stack, but I do with a small stack."
I don't know the situation here. Trying to put moves on big stacks on the bubble isn't the wisest strategy unless you really know what you are doing. Put moves on the middle stacks who are afraid to bust out on the bubble. They are the perfect targets. Now smaller stacks...you don't have to put moves on them...they just get out of the way. Case in point. We are on the bubble in the Seniors. Short stack limps, limps???, yes limps UTG. I think there were 4 to the flop. Axx. Short stack then folds to a bet. Later he says, and I completely believe him, after the bubble has burst,
"I had QQ there. No way in hell I'm playing that hand unless I flop a set.--no matter what the flop."
This is one of the reasons I was able to go from a slightly above average stack of $37K to a fairly commanding one of $75K in the dozen or so bubble hands. Most of the time it was just steal steal steal. But I did have to take a flop on one hand. And I did go to the river on the other hand showing down a winner. While I would have hated busting after playing 13 hours of poker over two days and getting NADA, that was not a factor in my play. 198th paid like $1,700. 12th, my final resting place, paid $22, 200. It's well worth the risk at the bubble if you have a stack to try to build it significantly because it is often relatively easy. Plus first place was $350K, and my JJ<AQ knocked me out. Win that....well you never know.
Chris
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chrisjp
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| emmapeel wrote: | | Live play does seem like fun so maybe I'll play that someday.EP |
It is an absolute blast and so much more intriguing than online. The interaction with others, live, makes it some much more fun IMO. You can't beat it.
Watch out, though, if you are at Men The Master's Table. He might spill beer on you, he might throw cards at the dealer, miss, and hit you.
So many things to worry about.... 
Chris |
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