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peteben
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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Location: Audubon IA
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: Basic OH8 question |
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| I'm new to omaha h/l and I'm still trying to get the basic calling requirements down. I have read the 2+2 high low book on hi-lo by ray zee but It's still a little fuzzy. Here's an an example. It's 7 handed at the horseshoe in council bluffs, a from what i noticed about the whole table was drawing to lows and even the third nut, a 4/8 limit game. I'm on the A(h) 8(h) j(d) 10 (d). Three people limp in in front of me. Do I call? Fold? From what i understand hi hands do very poorly in mulitway pots so I would say fold. What if everything were the same except i were in the small blind. Do i put in the extra 2? I'm more interested in the though processes behind why to play/not play hands so i can get a better feel of what to play. One more question, What about a hand like a(h) 4(s) 10 (h) 10 (s). How would it be play in early, mid, and late. The a4 lows seem to confuse me because i don't know when to draw to them, although i have a feeling its very read dependent, thks for the help. |
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B.U.Terriers
Joined: 24 Nov 2004
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Location: Eastern MA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Basic OH8 question |
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| peteben wrote: | | I'm new to omaha h/l and I'm still trying to get the basic calling requirements down. I have read the 2+2 high low book on hi-lo by ray zee but It's still a little fuzzy. Here's an an example. It's 7 handed at the horseshoe in council bluffs, a from what i noticed about the whole table was drawing to lows and even the third nut, a 4/8 limit game. I'm on the A(h) 8(h) j(d) 10 (d). Three people limp in in front of me. Do I call? Fold? From what i understand hi hands do very poorly in mulitway pots so I would say fold. What if everything were the same except i were in the small blind. Do i put in the extra 2? I'm more interested in the though processes behind why to play/not play hands so i can get a better feel of what to play. One more question, What about a hand like a(h) 4(s) 10 (h) 10 (s). How would it be play in early, mid, and late. The a4 lows seem to confuse me because i don't know when to draw to them, although i have a feeling its very read dependent, thks for the help. |
OK, first example, I'm folding     in mid-position. Almost no chance of winning a low, and with a loose table (which it seems to be) I want to have either a monster high hand (like double suited Aces with two other paint cards) or an A2 or A3 suited along with two good suited high cards.
Second example, I'd play    only in late position. A4 is not a great low draw... odds are someone will have an A3 or A2, so you're really looking for a perfect flop to have a solid chance for the low. In late position, especially with few callers, it's worth a call, especially with the nut flush draw. I discount pocket pairs a lot in O/8. Unless you hit quads or the nut FH, you always have to worry about a redraw somewhere. Just my two cents, and welcome to ITH.
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peteben
Joined: 07 Dec 2005
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Location: Audubon IA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| thks alot, I've got alot to learn about hi lo Im sure ill be posting more |
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rwrangler
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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from what I understand hi only hands play very well in multi way pots and not short handed. The main reason being that they don't hit that often but when they do you often get a scoop.
I don't think you would be making a big mistake folding AKJ9 one suited even in late position if only one or two other players limped in front of you. |
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jthegreat
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I'd definitely limp in in the first example. It'll be a REALLY easy hand to get away from if the flop misses you. Just be ready to get out, and quick, if you flop nothing. High only hands play very well in loose games since you'll often get several people drawing to the (same) low. You often have the odds to draw in this situation.
As for the 2nd hand (A4TT), that's a trap hand. Unless you get a perfect flop... one that has a 23 in it, you're going to end up drawing to a non-nut low and the TT is very unlikely to win you anything for high. |
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OmahaMD
Joined: 19 Oct 2006
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Location: Los Angeles
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| If it's a live game, I'd play both without hesitation. Online though, I'd play both with caution... |
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toom
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| The best advice for you hasn't been mentioned yet. Put the Zee book on a high shelf and forget it for a while. Try Tenner and Krieger (best), or Cappelleti or Ken Warren. |
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