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Bad Call/Fold?

 
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teknique



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 2:51 pm    Post subject: Bad Call/Fold? Reply with quote

This hand kinda frustrated me because I felt like I played it too weakly preflop, or because the BB played it horribly, and I can't decide between the two...possibly both. The pre flop action is all thats really important.

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BB (t8265)
UTG (t560)
Button (t2460)
Hero (SB) (t2215)

Hero's M: 2.01

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5, A
UTG calls t510 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t300, BB raises to t2400, 1 fold

Flop: (t1910) 6, 6, J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t1910) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1910) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t1910

The tiny stack showed A2 and the BB showed KT, and I would have split the pot with the tiny stack, preventing his huge chip up and also keeping my stack healthy. I am guessing I should have pushed here, rather than hoping for collusion?
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ciaran
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, you prefer a 3-way showdown here, because you should be ahead of UTG's range but you'll never be way ahead. With a cooperative BB, you can limp and check it down, but with an aggressive one, you're faced with either the spot you got in, or with jamming and taking the overlay on your flip.

I think, on average, that you're better off limping and calling a shove from BB, but I haven't done the math (which would be somewhat complicated to do by hand). Maybe one of the SNGWiz users will chime in here (I think it may be able to handle at least part of this situation more easily).
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teknique



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This particular hand frustrated me so much because this bubble went on for about 15 minutes, and all three villians were playing terribly and I couldn't find a spot to take advantage of it, and ultimately bubbled it. One of the shorties was limping at 200/400 with a stack of 2000 and not trapping, but would call any shove over him with his mediocre holding, and yet I couldn't find an above average hand to push on his limping. The other shortie practically let himself get blinded out, being under 2BB several times and each time finding a huge hand or a suck out to double and then start blinding out again. The big stack was ultra passive, just sat there waiting for someone to bubble out and this is why his reraise made me think he didn't want to collude because he had a monster, I didn't really give it any thought before folding.
That being said my session today yielded a 32.92% ROI so I can't complain too much.
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