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Any Reason to Slow Down BVB

 
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thew92
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Any Reason to Slow Down BVB Reply with quote

Poker Stars $1/$2 Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 169236
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BB with 3 Club: 5 Diamond:
1 fold, MP calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks

Flop: (3 SB) A Club: 2 Club: 4 Spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP folds, SB calls

Turn: (2.5 BB) 2 Heart: (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps!, SB calls

River: (10.5 BB) 3 Diamond: (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero caps!, SB calls all in
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Willem
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Without any reads, I'm just calling his riverbet. He 'should' have at least a 5 here for a split.

Btw, this is not really a BvB situation, as MP is also seeing the flop. BvB is when it gets checked to SB.
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StarlightCoast



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things on this hand. When SB 3 bets that paired turn it's a definite possibility you're facing a full house here. Even if this is a split pot all the raising will do is generate the rake. If you won outright, SB is simply a doofus and good job. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless your opp is a mental case you are a chop or behind. If you see has virtually no money left, then he might be spewing and agg play makes more sense. Note that this puts him mental case category. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although it's possible that opponent is sitting on a non fh 2 the most likely scenario for hero, as has been pointed out, is a split or a loss.

You're behind to: A2, AA,22,44,24. All possible hands from a SB that just needed to complete. (even AA if they're trying to be "tricky"). Fill house involving a 3 is unlikely since he was getting aggressive on the turn already, although 23 is possible. 6 high straight is unlikely.

At 1-2 he might also have a number of hands that you beat (other than trip 2's), (Ax other than A2 would be the most likely), depending on how spewey he is - but you shouldn't count on that.

Just call the river bet.
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thew92
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugsbunny wrote:

You're behind to: A2, AA,22,44,24. All possible hands from a SB that just needed to complete. (even AA if they're trying to be "tricky")



The SB in this hand was a 53/10/1.5 and his AF on the flop was a 2.1 . So I had strong reason to believe that if he held any of these hands he would have Bet or Check Raised the flop. I also believed this was the type of player to go nuts with a 2x type hand. Also keep in mind that this is a 6 max game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2.1 is not an overly high aggression factor.
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thew92
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bugsbunny wrote:
2.1 is not an overly high aggression factor.


I believe that a 2.1 FlopAF would have raised/bet with 2 pair or better on the flop. This would have made it less likley that he turned a full house.

BTW I think I might have posted this hand in the wrong forum. Wink
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