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Schlepper333
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:22 am    Post subject: Another flush hand Reply with quote

Villains are Loose/passive.

Turn: Bet out or C/r

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A 5
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1calls, MP2 calls, MP3 (poster) checks, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (5.5 SB) 9 4 6 (5 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold

Turn: (4.75 BB) J (4 players)
Hero ??

Total pot: $1.35 (6.75 BB)
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Willem
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get tricky in multiway pots. Just ram and jam with the nuts at every opportunity. Suppose you check, UTG and MP1 also check and MP2 bets. Now you will probably knock out the other players by raising. In that case, only MP2 puts 2 bets in the pot. If you just bet out, you will almost certainly win that amount too. Only now, you give someone the opportunity to raise so you can 3bet.
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jeffnc
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy bet.

Misunderstud says: "Same as Willem said when you posted the flop. No one's going to bet this for you (except as a bluff, and then they'll fold anyway): just pile 'em in."

(He answered a duplicate post, which I'm deleting.)
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nsidestrate
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder why you think this would be a good c/r spot? That might be instructive.
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Schlepper333
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wonder why you think this would be a good c/r spot? That might be instructive.


I have thought a lot about this question and I think it stems from the beginner's notion that c/r is what you do with strong hands to get more bets out of loose players. Of course that reason is not good enuf and may be down right crazy. So I think I need more cogent reasons for check/raising. Thanks for asking me to think about this. Wink
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jeffnc
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schlepper333 wrote:
I have thought a lot about this question and I think it stems from the beginner's notion that c/r is what you do with strong hands to get more bets out of loose players.


Think of the difference between loose/tight, and aggressive/passive. Lots of players are loose, but they just check and call a lot.
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