Another blind play question

[Misunderstud]

I tried this in the limit forum, but no one there seemed to have an answer . . .

You, in MP3, and CO both join a (FR limit) table at the same time. You assume that CO will post a blind. Do you post as well, or wait?

If you do post, do you still raise any 2 1st in?

[Richie(UK)]

Hi mis - must have missed the post in the limit forum. I'll try to make up for it here

Well, position is already at play here isn't it? We don't know that CO will post and we will have to post first (although our post may encourage him to post). We also have to take account of the fact that there are some aggressive and observant players, even at lower limits, who will see two posters as being a good incentive to throw in a pre-flop raise to get some extra dead money or make you chase with a random hand.

As regards raising first-in, yes this is probably a good idea (although I'm not sure that I would loosen as far as ATC). However, remember again that CO has position and, if he is aware of what you are attempting, may 3bet to fold the blinds and get heads-up with you. How will you proceed in that scenario?

To actually answer your questions :
1. Yes, I think I would post in this situation.
2. Yes, I probably raise first in.

[AlamedaMike]

I would post and raise most hands that I received. Rasing ATC is a bit tricky since the CO will likely 3-bet with better than average hands.

[kpr16]

I wait my 3-hands.

[AlamedaMike]

Actually I said post and the raise my good hands. I used to do this a lot and then lately in live games I wait for the BB to come around. This is because in a lot of the the live games when you post they like to raise your post since you are putting in another live blind. This leads to dead money.

The advice most often give was post after the button since your post of the big blind buys you 6 free hands and you have good position. If you wait for your BB and SB then they buy you 8 free hands. If the SB is 1/3 then the BB/SB is a better deal imo and you get your button.

[Bugsbunny]

[Willem]

[Misunderstud]

On the plus side:

Stealing has to succeed less often because there's more dead money.
More dead money lowers others' raising standards, adding value to your premium hands.
More dead money lowers calling standards, enabling you to play more family hands.
CO doesn't always post anyway (why, I've no idea).

On the minus side:

Stealing succeeds less often.
Fewer stealing opportunities owing to early callers.
More chance of a raise in front when you have crap you can't call with.
Chance of being stuck in the middle with rags.

I usually post, but it's good to get some other opinions.

[Bugsbunny]

[nsidestrate]

I'd post in MP3 with or without a CO poster. I think we ran the math on this once in an old thread.

[Bugsbunny]