adding info and metagame choices

[Skrotnisse]

Warning: this is a long post! You dont have to evaluate all the individual hands (if you don´t want to). Just read through and comment my thinking. (and maybe discuss some metagame choices.) These are all hands against same villain and they all followed in a row. Villain was unknown except for his stats 76/20/0.5 (after 35 hands) and that he turned out to be somewhat showdown bound.

3/6 Limit Holdem
Hand 1:

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 4 players) Hero is BTN
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

Turn: (3.2 BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

River: (5.2 BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: 5.2 BB
BB shows:

- I bet the turn as standard against unknown passive player. 75o, he is calling in the BB with a wide range.

Hand 2:

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 4 players) Hero is SB
CO calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, BB calls, CO calls

Flop: (6.0 SB, 3 players)
Hero bets, 1 fold, CO calls

Turn: (4.0 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

River: (6.0 BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: 6.0 BB
CO shows:

- I raise from the SB for value but also in the hopes of isolating the fishy villain. I bet turn again. Usually this is a check/behind but I dont fear him raising the turn thin or as a bluff. (his turn aggression factor is 0.33)

Hand 3:

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 6 players) Hero is SB
1 fold, UTG 1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG 1 calls

Flop: (6.0 SB, 3 players)
Hero bets, 1 fold, UTG 1 calls

Turn: (4.0 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG 1 calls

River: (6.0 BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG 1 bets, Hero folds

- I usually check/call the river but villain was so passive that I check/folded. I probably should just pay him off to be sure, right?

Hand 4:

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 6 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (2.5 SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls

Turn: (2.2 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls

River: (6.2 BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 8.2 BB
CO shows:

- Bet flop he will pay off with a wide range. I was tempted to 3bet turn but decided not to since I put him on flush, straight, set and just maybe/sometimes on 2 pair. Have to call down anyways.

Hand 5:

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 5 players) Hero is SB
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, UTG calls

Flop: (5.0 SB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls

Turn: (3.5 BB, 2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls

River: (5.5 BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Final Pot: 5.5 BB
UTG shows:

- Can´t help myself, need to raise pre for value. Im glad he didnt bet the river I think I need to call since I made a speculative fold 2 hands ago?

Hand 6:

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 5 players) Hero is BTN
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls

Flop: (4.5 SB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

Turn: (3.2 BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

River: (5.2 BB, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: 5.2 BB
BB shows:

- Not much to say. My luck continues.

Hand 7:

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 5 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold

Flop: (5.0 SB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls

Turn: (3.5 BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (3.5 BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls

Final Pot: 5.5 BB
SB shows:

- So here we go. I was tired of not knowing and I decided to induce. It seems like he could bet bluffs!

[Bugsbunny]

Hand 2:
He's extremely passive, but he's not folding any type of pair etc. You may well have been able to go check/check on both the turn and river here. If you check the turn and he bets you can probably let it go given his stats. But I would call a river bet by him here, since even passive players will bluff bet the river - especially if you check both the turn and river.

The preflop raise is meh. ATs I would raise, A9s is borderline. It would also depend on BB's tendencies. If he's likely to call the raise (and he should with a wide range here) I prefer just completing. If BB tends to fold preflop a bit too often then I'd raise.

If I had position on mr fish then it would be an easy raise, but oop I tend to just complete and then try to drive people our on the flop (depending on the exact board - but it doesn't necessarily have to hit me). I may lead out, I may c/r. In this case, with mr passive being last to act, I'd probably lead out on pretty much
any flop and then take it from there.

Hand 3, see my comments on hand 2.

Hand 4 is tougher. I'd really like to see his "won showdown when raised turn" number. I suspect it's close to 100%. I don't think I could fold here, although I probably should (if I slowed down to think I may well find a fold) Against a lot of players I'd call here just because of the in my hand - against him I'd be much less likely to think that was good. I think the turn here is 3 bet (fold to a cap or river lead) or fold, and with a .33 aggression fold is probably correct. I don't think he raises 2 pair here, or maybe not even a set.

Hand 5 is fine all around.

Hand 6 I'd probably check the turn and call a river bet, raise if I hit A or straight.

Hand 7 - I like it.

[Willem]

Hand 2 is fine against a passive opponent. I would probably call the river in hand 3 as there are a ton of missed strait draws. Hand 7 is fine.

[Skrotnisse]

Thank you both for your responses!

Bugs, if I understand you correctly, you suggest check/folding the turn and check/calling the river as a somewhat alternate but standard line against a loose/passive player OOP. I find this suggestion really appealing because I find it so hard to play against a LP player when being out of position. I often just bet, bet and check/call the river. (sometimes check/folding). And I often find myself just spewing in situations like this, again and again.

The biggest negative to your line is of course: how do we balance it? What hands do we bet flop and check/call the turn with against a loose/passive player? I guess, none!

Thoughts on this?

[Willem]