A8o overlimps

[Willem]

New at the table so no reads.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB raises, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

The jury is still out on the initial preflop call. I think they will raise most better aces and I have position the entire hand, so I think it's fine.

Flop: (7SB, 4 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, CO raises, Hero ???

Hero's action?

[mconstab]

I fold pre flop as I don't think I'd be skilled enough to play this in a potential 5 way pot but I know you play quite a LAG style so it probably fits your image. I raise A9o in this spot depending on how loose the blinds are.

As played I fold this flop. SB shows considerable strength by raising from the blinds pre and firing this 4 way flop. Obviously if CO doesn't raise I'm continuing but would play it passive from there on in.

[Bugsbunny]

You have 2 options. Fold or 3 bet. I vote for fold.

You have, in front of you, a bet, a cal, and a raise. You also have no diamonds in hand.

You may be ahead here (if so it's against a weaker A - there's almost certainly at least one out there). But you're in potential trouble to a lot of cards almost any card can give someone 2 pair (especially Aces up). An 8 of diamonds isn't going to make you feel great either.

As far as preflop goes, I think it's fine. I'll limp with a lot of hands here - including pretty much any A. One of the advantages of position is you get the ability to get out cheap when you need to (like this hand).

One note - I wouldn't be raising A9o here - I rather take advantage of my position and just over limp. I probably raise ATs, but not ATo. A9s is borderline, but I'd still just overlimp.

Now if we were talking about only 1, loose, limper (and some not overly loose blinds) then I'd be raising, probably down to about A6o, maybe even lower. But with 2 limpers already in I'm not going to isolate so I'll just play positional advantage (and a preflop raise will cost me that).

[Willem]

I agree that I indeed have two options, raise or fold. There is actually a little bit of information I forgot to mention. SB limped UTG a few hands ago, which means he is probably a weak player. And because he is a weak player, he may fire a continuation bet regardless of his hand. If I assign him the following range { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }, my A8o has 48% equity. Then there is UTG who almost never has a better hand (unless he is sandbagging). And CO would probably raise any better Ax hand preflop so his most likely hand is a draw.

Anyway, I liked my chances here and elected to 3-bet. SB folded.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB raises, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7SB, 4 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (7.5BB, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero ???

[Skrotnisse]

I would check it now and call a river bet.

The pot is big so we should try to protect our hand but there´s no hand he should be folding after this. If he raised flop with a crappy gutshot then he is probably not folding now. He might have a PP but then a free card only gives 2 outs for free. But most likely he has an A or a K and we dont need to bet for value against that hand. Sure he could have a worse Ax, but the river might also give us a split.

[mconstab]

[ineedcash112]

preflop call? i think you have a reason for this. care to share?

on turn i'd fire a second barrel but fold to a check raise, you have demonstrated too much strength for anyone to make a fancy play on turn.

[Willem]

[Bugsbunny]

[Bugsbunny]

[Willem]

[Willem]

I decided to throw in another valuebet but I'm not sure if that was correct. With this card on the river, my kicker doesn't play anymore and I split with any other Ax. If I bet, I do need to play of a raise since he can easily check-raise a busted draw. If I give him the following range {QJ, QT, JT}, then my equity is 60%. If you throw some busted draws into the mix, bet-calling might become correct. But only very slightly. Checking behind might have been better.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero calls, SB raises, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7SB, 4 players)
SB bets, UTG calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (7.5BB, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (9.5BB, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.5BB

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