7 Stud: Two Pair against visible four flush on 6th

[Holgininho]

Is this a call on 3rd street? Or should I have raised? Folded?

On 5th I bet again. Some of the flush cards are already dead, and he brought it in on 3rd, so it's unlikely he has already a made flush.

On 6th things have changed, but I called hoping to hit the full house. I didn't calculate pot odds at that time, but 3 of my outs were live, and 14 cards were already known (ask not if I had remembered all of the folded cards). So I had the odds were 35:3 against improving, or nearly 12:1. So I guess I should have folded. Surely the chance that he doesn't have the flush he represents isn't high enough to justify a call.

7 Card Stud High ($1/$2), Ante $0,25, Bring-In $0,50 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.25 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx J:___folds
Seat 5: xx xx 8:___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 8:___calls
Hero: K: 4: 4:___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 2:___brings-in

4th Street - (2.75 SB)

Seat 6: xx xx 8: 5:___folds
Hero: K: 4: 4: K:___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 2: 4:___calls

5th Street - (2.38 BB)

Hero: K: 4: 4: K: 9:___bets
Seat 8: xx xx 2: 4: T:___calls

6th Street - (4.38 BB)

Hero: K: 4: 4: K: 9: J:___checks___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 2: 4: T: Q:___bets

River - (6.38 BB)

Hero: K: 4: 4: K: 9: J: K:___checks___raises___raises
Seat 8: xx xx 2: 4: T: Q: xx___bets___raises___calls

Total pot: (14.38 BB)

[Icall]

I don't know what the standard play on 3rd is either but I can see a good case for raising and knocking out the bring in.

I probably play the same way through the river.

On the river I think you got a little too fancy for your own good. Your hand is extremely concealed, you dont even have an open pair. If you bet the river he will probably raise you with a flush anyway and you can 3 bet it and hope he caps. You'll also prevent him from checking a pair or 2 behind if he doesn't actually have the flush by leading.

[niin]

I think you have to check the river, since you checked 6th. You can assume your opponent will bet the river, since they probably already have a made hand, and you checked when the 4 clubs came up. Checking 6th then leading the river looks weird (it would to me); it's either a total bluff or you just hit something that beats the flush, so I guess it more depends on what your opponent thinks of you.

[Icall]

Check raising is a lot scarier than a donk IMO, especially at that level.

Most people are thinking on the first level and will raise with a flush there against a completely benign board HU. If he doesn't have a flush then you probably cost yourself a bet more often than you gain a bet by checking.

As it was the guy 3 bet a CR anyway so it likely didnt matter. He had a flush and was going to cap it out regardless. I still think you make more $$$ by leading against typical 1/2 players when they have a flush there.

[nsidestrate]

In a 7 stud game populated by sane people, you can either get two bets on one bet on the river. A game where the flush three bets your check-raise is unknown to me.

Standard play on third is probably a fold, although I'm OK with a raise. the open limp short-handed is a real sign of weakness.

5th is tricky. Even if you think he is bluffing as often as 33% of the time, he still has a ton of outs to catch the flush. Its hard to imagine what he has other than a flush draw, so you have to figure he has hit. If you think he has the flush, chasing three outers on 6th is not usually a winning approach. It boils down to how often you think are good when you miss. If check-call, check-call will win the pot often enough, you can chase on 6th. In a normal game, it isn't and you can't. I really don't know enough about online $1/$2 to say if it is worth it here.

[Holgininho]