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Holgininho
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 Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: 7 Stud: short-handed, 8s in the hole, straight-flush kicker |
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I don't have a read on villain, except for his screen name: Reraiserx. Don't know if that tells us anything. At least he knows that reraising is a possibility. 
Comments on all streets are appreciated.
7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0,25, Bring-In $1 (converter)
3rd Street - (0.63 SB)
Seat 1: xx xx Q :___folds
Hero: 8: 8 : 7:___raises___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J :___folds
Seat 5: xx xx Q:___raises
Seat 6: xx xx 5 :___brings-in___folds
4th Street - (5.13 SB)
Hero: 8: 8: 7: A:___checks___calls
Seat 5: xx xx Q: 6:___bets
5th Street - (3.56 BB)
Hero: 8: 8: 7: A: 4:___calls
Seat 5: xx xx Q: 6: A:___bets
6th Street - (5.56 BB)
Hero: 8: 8: 7: A: 4: A:___bets
Seat 5: xx xx Q: 6: A: K:___folds
Total pot: (5.56 BB) |
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Icall
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:20 am Post subject: |
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I think I would fold 5th but I could be completely wrong. Stud is probably my worst HORSE game.
My reasoning being that the bets are doubled and he should either have a flush or higher pair than 8s if he's normal after the re-raise preflop.
The  is probably the worst card in the deck for him to catch on you. |
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Holgininho
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Icall wrote: | I think I would fold 5th but I could be completely wrong. Stud is probably my worst HORSE game.
My reasoning being that the bets are doubled and he should either have a flush or higher pair than 8s if he's normal after the re-raise preflop.
The is probably the worst card in the deck for him to catch on you. |
Hm, I didn't think about that, but I guess you're right. I thought about the flush draw of course, but I thought it was perfectly possible - or even likely - he didn't have another heart in the hole. I put him on a pair of queens, because most player at these tables won't reraise without a big pair, I think (but of course I could be wrong).
I failed to take into account though that my opponent catching an ace not only meant one of my outs was dead, it also meant that I didn't have an overcard to his board anymore. Hm...
What do you think about raising and calling on 3rd street? |
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ebo8b
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I think you should call on 5th, and I don't think the was a bad card for you. If anything, you can't be too worried that he re-raised you on 3rd with three big hearts. I'd put him on a range of pairs larger than your eights, rarely aces and queens, rarely trip queens, and some pair + flush draw hands. Because most of his range is one pair, you're drawing pretty live to two pair, trips, and backdoor flush and straight draws.
On 6th street, I'm not sure if you should check/raise or bet out. But betting out seems like the right play - I'd expect villain to check behind with any hand that you beat. You don't want to give a free card to a flush, and if villain has a worse two pair, he will probably call. |
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nsidestrate
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| Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Holgininho wrote: | | What do you think about raising and calling on 3rd street? |
With two bigger door cards yet to act, I'd normally fold third, even shorthanded. It would be a better move if they had two lower door cards. Once you get reraised, you call, but look to improve or fold, probably on 5th for the reasons Icall gave. Some people like to check-raise when they catch an Ace like you did on 4th, but I think the other guy's action should usually be respected. |
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Holgininho
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| ebo8b wrote: | | On 6th street, I'm not sure if you should check/raise or bet out. But betting out seems like the right play - I'd expect villain to check behind with any hand that you beat. You don't want to give a free card to a flush, and if villain has a worse two pair, he will probably call. |
That was my reasoning as well. I thought about check-raising, but I couldn't really expect him to bet any weaker hand when I have an open pair of aces.
On 3rd street I was worried because of the two higher door cards behind me, and I'm not at all comfortable playing short-handed. But I thought, they wouldn't put me on a steal, because of those high door cards behind me, so there was some chance they might simply fold. If one of them had a real hand, I hoped he would reraised, so that I would be heads-up against him. I thought playing one middle pair and a straight flush kicker with nearly all my cards being live (and one queen dead) wouldn't be a bad result. And it worked.
Of course, if two players had called, or the jack had reraised and the queen had called, I would have been in a very uncomfortable position. I still don't know, how I like my play there. But I had just started reading 7 Stud for Advanced Players and felt that as an aspiring expert () I should loosen up a bit. |
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ebo8b
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I still like the 3rd street raise because the two queens behind you makes your main concern the jack. This could be too loose though. But if you raise on 3rd street, you should probably fold when the queen re-raises - you don't have an overcard in case you're up against a higher pair. |
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chrisjp
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| Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'd raise here preflop. And I'd call the raise. You start folding to every reraise on 3rd and you're going to get completely run over.
Lots of things going for you here. No 6s,7s,8s, 9s. But he has a dead Queen. Only one dead club. Sure the straights and flushes are long shots, but they all add up. He's most likely to have a Q or a pocket pair above a 7, but who knows. Now it's a big minus to not have an overcard, but it's worth seeing another card.
On 5th street things look grim. I think I would fold. That Ace is a killer since it is a heart. If he started with a flush draw, not likely, he got there. If not I think he has a pair of Queens or Aces. I disagree with ebo in that regard. Yes, there is a dead Q and A, but he's playing the hand.
If you play on 6th you've got to bet out and not let him take a free card to hit the flush or trips. Plus if you don't have two pair then you likely have a flush. If he raises well he probably has the flush and you have 3 outs. But it could be a semibluff. He's going to have to show me the best hand.
Chris |
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