3. Victory Poker

[mchilger]

New poker site from Victory Poker, a popular poker Forum and community.

http://www.victorypoker.com/pokerroom/

[fatshaft]

[mchilger]

Platininum Poker Network. See this thread for other comments about the site.

http://www.internettexasholdem.com/~internet/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6637

Matthew

[Taipan]

I gave Victory an 8.

I play at the lower limits $1/$2 limit and up to $25 SnGs and the games are definately beatable. I found the traffic slow to start with, especially the $1/$2 limit tables which were usually empty at the times I played but over the last couple of weeks it's really picked up and I can nearly always get a game.
The poor colours/table graphics are well documented but don't detract too much from the game. My main gripe is that I keep getting screen freezes. It happens quite frequently and can be infuriating, particularly when I'm heads-up, but I did contact Customer Services and they advised it was my PC. This is the only site that this happens on so I'm a bit confused by this however I must say I was very impressed by their Customer Services who contacted me immediately and gave me several options to try and improve the problem.
Finally their cashout facilities are also excellent as I asked for a withdrawl on Friday night and it was processed on Monday morning.
Overall a great site.

[Wynton]

I've been playing here a fair amount recently and like it. The place has a deserved reputation for having extremely loose, beatable games. Unforunately, I've been doing terribly there myself. Either this is bad luck or my inability to adjust to a loose game. In any event, if you like loose nl games, there is plenty of traffic. And the single-table tournaments fill up pretty quickly too.

The colors are an issue, but I am told they will be fixed in the next batch of software updates.

[Teach]

Thank you Matthew for posting a review link and also for sharing a link at each others website.

I hope many of our 1000 plus members will not only purchase your fine book, but will join in the discussion here at your website.

As for Victorypoker.com the cardroom, we are doing great for our members and with an average of 2000+ players playing at any time, the selection of ring and tournament action is fantastic.

This month we have over $2,000,000 in prize money to give out, so take a shot everyone.

Here's what you might want to do. Download, get a log on, play the MONEY ADDED free tournaments, build a bankroll and enjoy life. No need to deposit any money until you feel comfortable with the site or want to take advantage of the 35% deposit bonus (using neteller).

All is good, prosper and win.... Teach out.

[JSaw]

I've finished my bonus chase up at Victory. I waited 2 days before contacting them to find out that something in my account was not set up right. I'd had be sent the email saying I was a Platinum member, but when it came time for the bonus something was not right and I'd hadn't be credited. I did get in contact with support and they manually deposited the bonus. I would say to anyone still working on there bonus keep ever email they send you just in case.

But I have not been credited with the rake back that I have earned yet. I say this site has a long ways to go. The play there is very loose and can yeild some big swings, and could be a very profitable site to play at. I just don't see everything running smoothly yet at Victory and am not sure if I will go back and play there.

I'm going to cash out now, let's see how this goes.

[Vegas_Rook]

anyone help me out here. You need "Victory Points" to earn bonus. I can't find the point schedule though.

For example, if my bonus is say $10, I need 1,000 freaking points. If I play .50/1.00 and only get 1 point per $5+ pot, this is obviously disgusting.

LMK please.

[niilon]

I'm pretty sure you should get more points per hand, since :

* For every real money hand that is dealt a maximum of 300 Victory Action Points will be awarded.

Even at low limits I believe we should get more points than 1 or 2.

However I would like to know more, too, so I second the request for more detailed information.. Thanks in advance

[banditdad]

Loosest games I've played in my limited experience. Deal with the variance and go fishing. Word of caution: more people from the Victory Poker Forum play at night so the games at the lower limits are tightening up. It's sometimes hard to find a game in .50/1.00, though they seem to have a lot of .25/.50.

I really like the software. No bells & whistles yet but it is FAST and RESPONSIVE.

[edwardr]

Last Sunday the Apex/Tribecca Network which includes VictorChandlerPoker, PlatinumPoker, VictoryPoker, and about 15 other skin poker sites put on a $50,000.00, guaranteed payout tournament that cost $37.00 to enter and offered re-buys for an additional $37.00 each. Mind you there is no requirement to do any re-buys and if $50,000.00 isn’t collected from entry fees and re-buys, the prize pool still remains a minimum of $50,000.00

Apparently 685 players registered and began the playoff. From what I understand, the site went down for a short time sometime after the tournament began. When the site came back online the tournament continued. After approximately 305 players were eliminated the Apex network announced that the re-buy portion of the software wasn’t working properly and the tournament was being cancelled and rescheduled. Imagine how the top 10 chip leaders must have felt. The fact that no one was allowed to re-buy doesn’t change fairness of the game at all. Everyone started with 2000 chips and had an equal chance of winning the tournament. Having no re-buys available didn’t give anyone any advantage over anyone else. The tournament was called off for one simple reason. The network collected $25,345.00 and would have to pay out $50,000.00 if they let the tournament continue to its conclusion.

Ok, so the poker site screwed the remaining players in order to save the extra $25,000.00. They did put up a few $1000.00 free-rolls to try to make everyone happy which always makes them look good in the eyes of those players that were no longer involved in the $50,000.00 tournament. So again they look like heroes to the majority of customers.

The problem I see here is that this poker site crashes at least once every two days and they have always continued the tournaments to completion when the site returns. What other reason would they have to cancel this one except for the fact that they would have had to put up $25,000.00 out of their pockets to meet the guaranteed payout?


So the next time this poker site has a guaranteed payout tournament with re-buys and everyone decides not to re-buy, will they cancel it again?

Is "Crooks" an option in your poll?

[Victory Poker Admin]

The $50,000 Guarantee was cancelled on Sunday and the reason was not because the site didn't want to cover the overlay. The reason was a simple question of fairness.

During the first 15 minutes of the tournament, many people were able to and did re-buy (and some were not). After 15 minutes a "Comm Server" crashed and made any additional re-buys impossible. Since some were and some weren't able to do re-buys, the network felt that the right thing to do was refund all buy-in's and re-buy's and re-schedule the tournament for a later date once they had fixed the culprit server and were certain the crash would not happen again.

While we understand the frustration by those that were running well in the tournament, to be fair to eveyone the tournament had to be re-scheduled and monies refunded. Since some players were and others weren't able to re-buy the field was not level and game some players that were able to re-buy an unfair advantage.

VP Admin

[edwardr]

He uses the word "FAIRNESS"

First of all he says that the problem occurred in the first 15 minutes, but the tournament wasn't cancelled until over 300 players were eliminated.
He said the site crashed in the first 15 minutes and when it retuned the tournament continued, but no one was able to do any rebuys. If the site wanted to be fair at this point why wasn't the tournament cancelled when the site crashed and everyone refunded their buy-ins. The tournament was allowed to continue because that's exactly how internet poker is run by all sites. I can't give you an exact time frame, but I'm sure 300 players weren't eliminated 10 minutes after the site returned to full operation. So after 300 players were eliminated the site decided to cancel the tournament. That's fine, so now we go to the rule book. I don't know of any poker site on the web that cancels a tournament after it started, where the remaning players don't share equitably in the prize pool. Every poker site that I know of has a policy of splitting the prize pool between all of the remaining players, including this site up until this point.

FAIRNESS? I imagine the site got some complaints from a few players in the first 15 minutes that were unable to do a rebuy, then I would think the site would satisfy those players that were disgruntled about being iliminated because they unable to rebuy, by returning their buyin fee. Like the pet monkey said in his post, if you choose to play on the internet you have to be able to accept these little flaws. But how on gods green earth is it fair to penalize the players who were still in the tourny?

What's FAIR about cancelling this tournament half way through because of a problem that occurred in the first 15 minutes, penalizing players who spent hours playing solid poker to get to a position where they may stand to win $13,500.00.

[Victory Poker Admin]

[edwardr]

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I trust this answers your questions/concerns.

VP Admin[/quote]






I suppose it does!

Still a very questionable occurance, and the site does seem to have a huge problem with technical issues and crashing, wouldn't you say?



Even though I see this as a reasonable explanation, I don’t agree that it is a wise solution to the problem as it was explained. I don’t like the idea of stopping a tournament to suit a few players that had technical difficulties and hope this doesn’t set a precedent for future events throughout the online poker industry. This type of action will always be questionable and leave open for debate, where you draw the line. If one player is unable to do the re-buy due to technical difficulties do you stop the tournament? How about 10 players or 25 players? Will the decision be based on a percentage of players factor or a time element? Do we really want the poker sites to have that kind of power? What would stop them from saying the tournament is cancelled due to technical difficulties just because they didn’t collect enough monies from re-buys to cover the prize pool.

This situation is done and over and we felt the powerlessness that we really have over how they decide to treat us. I for one hope this never happens again and hope that the outrage that was shown in the forums across the web will convince the poker sites that implementing a policy of canceling tournaments will not make for a happy customer base. I feel that this particular poker site needs to come up with a set of tournament rules and policies that is posted somewhere so that it can be referred to when situations like this arise again. To this date I can’t find any tournament cancellation policy posted anywhere on any home pages or on the poker site itself.