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RiverCascade
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:57 pm    Post subject: 2. PARADISE POKER, Site Discussion Reply with quote

Please begin here. (Discussion prior to June '06, can be found here.)

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RiverCascade
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheWhale asked:

Quote:
Does Paradise offer reloads on any kind of consistant basis. I loved played there but I can't be playing somewhere where I'm not clearing a bonus. Laughing

Imo, no. If they offer 2 a year, I'd be surprised. At first I liked this site, but for many reasons, not any longer.

Their lobby is horrid, as far as the software is concerned. It doesn't show all the tables consistently, like the ones at which you're sitting. I'm always checking pot size so when the tables don't show, it's a pain.

When you're on a waiting list, many times the tables won't open, or they won't even let you join the lists. I liked the traffice and fish volume, but for the other reasons, it's not even worth it to me. Plus, you have to request the hand histories, compared to them being stored on your computer. Many times there are errors in them. I don't play there at all, unless they're offering a bonus, so not too often. Blech!
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malteg



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Posts: 765
Location: Luebeck, Germany

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A site with really a lot of fish at the 0.5/1 tables - maybe the weakest competition besides Pacific. They sometimes offer 10x reload bonuses that never expire and clear very fast at this limit.
So everything could be fine here IF they had better software, but, as RC mentioned, the software is absolutely crappy.

When you have a bonus to clear, it is definitely worth playing there. Otherwise you have a lot of better opportunities.
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Piscivorous
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Joined: 06 May 2004
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RiverCascade wrote:
TheWhale asked:

Quote:
Does Paradise offer reloads on any kind of consistant basis. I loved played there but I can't be playing somewhere where I'm not clearing a bonus. Laughing

Imo, no. If they offer 2 a year, I'd be surprised.


Actually, it is more like 4-5 reloads yearly and usually averaging 20% up to $100. Paradise Poker ring games with bonus is, in the army vernacular, a fallback position. Never expiring, easily clearable. You can get 1 bonus clearing point [10 points clears $1], for each $1 in tourney fees.

Although I agree with River that the site is in desparate need of a makeover and software update, there are a number of positives about Paradise:

1) The tables are soft.
2) The bonuses you do get never expire and are easy to clear.
3) The tournaments offered are very good and cover many different buy-ins and structures.
4) The rake structure is fair and consistent across the board.
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kestrel



Joined: 09 Apr 2005
Posts: 182
Location: South London

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why they don't offer 5-max games on anything lower than $1/$2 LHE.

It seems to me that Paradise is more of a FR site, which strikes me as strange because the Poker sites make more money from SH games. I just don't see any logic behind it.
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hed235



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 108
Location: UK

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone who plays mainly sit and goes I dislike the fact that their $5 tournaments have a $1 add on.

Why play at $5 + $1 when other sites offer $5 + $0.50?
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Piscivorous
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hed235 wrote:
As someone who plays mainly sit and goes I dislike the fact that their $5 tournaments have a $1 add on.

Why play at $5 + $1 when other sites offer $5 + $0.50?


Although it is a bit annoying, Paradise as well as Party SnGs at the $5 level are so ridiculously soft that my ROI at both surpass that at sites where the $5+$.50 is the norm. So although you may be getting gouged by the excess rake, you should more than make up for it by the softness of the games and the expected increase of finishing ITM.

However, stay away from Absolute. They charge $6+$1 and the games are not as soft as Paradise/Party.
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chillin411



Joined: 22 Jan 2005
Posts: 804
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful in their rebuy tournaments... as Paradise rakes rebuys as well as the initial buy-in, as the tournament fee is taken from the prize pool, and is not played at the beginning.
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therivierakid
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Joined: 22 May 2005
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Location: SuA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been playing on Paradise quite a lot recently (bonus clearing). 0.5/1 FR limit.

At certain times you can struggle to get a good table. At others (like today at 6am BST) good tables are a dime a dozen. I joined two tables with ASFs of 63 and 74% Shocked The play is generally as bad as the software when you get a juicy table.

The traffic is pretty constant - there's never less than 8 tables running and I've seen as many as 20. Just my experience. YMMV.
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Vegasario



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
Posts: 38
Location: Hebron, Indiana

PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate Paradise's software, but I love the games at the .50/1.00 and 1/2 levels. Competition seems pretty soft, and I make more money on this site than I do at Party. I've been playing at both for about a year now.

Also there are a lot of regulars here. I don't necessarily like Paradise's note taking feature; nothing to show that you have notes on a player. You have to "hover" your mouse over their names to see if you have notes on them BUT...you run into the same people so much you can track their play very easily.
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therivierakid
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Joined: 22 May 2005
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Location: SuA

PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a cashout to Neteller earlier this week. Took less than 24 hours. No hassle at all.
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razboynik



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Posts: 12
Location: Moscow and Krasnodar, Russia

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't read the posts above.

I started to play online poker at Paradise in 2003. They gave you 100% instant cash bonus on your deposit up to $200 I think. I played TX FL 5-10 and won Very Happy
I recently played there after a 2 year gap and nothing has changed. While other sites have been developing their software to perfection, Paradise has done very little to their software. No wonder they are sinking fast. Confused
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razboynik



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Posts: 12
Location: Moscow and Krasnodar, Russia

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't read the posts above.

I started to play online poker at Paradise in 2003. They gave you 100% instant cash bonus on your deposit up to $200 I think. I played TX FL 5-10 and won Very Happy
I recently played there after a 2 year gap and nothing has changed. While other sites have been developing their software to perfection, Paradise has done very little to their software. No wonder they are sinking fast. Confused
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rickit



Joined: 19 Apr 2006
Posts: 30
Location: australia

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject: bonus in may 2007 Reply with quote

paradise has offered me a 100% $100 reload bonus this week. Got a 100% $50 in March. They are pretty easy to work off.

I don't mind the software
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danny47o



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Posts: 48
Location: Montreal

PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strongly considering setting up shop at Paradise.

I hear the rake is fine?

And I hear the players are some of the softest at NL100 compared to the other sites?

Is there a way to sign-up through this site to get PokerTracker and HU Display free? I don't see it in the list of banners, can't find the claim form for it...
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