Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 4328 Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:03 pm Post subject:
Shove seems standard if you have FE (the 4x raise is a huge clue against most players, though whether it means you have FE or don't will vary, so you need to know which one you're facing). You can't call because you're OOP, and you don't want to see a showdown because you're very likely to be flipping with any hand that you do go to showdown with. In other words, you really don't want to price BB in (or give him the impression you are) with KQs.
Joined: 05 Feb 2006 Posts: 2042 Location: Edinburgh
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:
That's a big re-raise.
That's a 30BB stack size re-raise over an MP3 raiser. I would guess that it is bigger than optimal here and not too likely to be in good shape if called. It would be interesting to compare a re-raise with 22 as with TT. Would 99 or less call here for villain? If so then there is a difference. I certainly would rather be doing this with TT than 22 just in case 99 or less called
I think pushing may be best here. (I might call on button but just noticed that Hero is SB.)
I dunno. Figure there is 900 (antes) + 800 (BB) + 3200 (initial raise) + 3200 (your call) in the pot before you raise. That means MP3 will have to call your raise to win your raise amount + 8100. I hate to give the initial raiser better than 2:1. 2:1 would require a raise to 11,300. If he shoves, it is for 12,000 more, giving you 2:1 and you would have to call. If you're calling, you should be shoving instead.
I think 25 BB is the perfect shove size. Villain in this case raised 4xBB, which makes a 30 BB shove just fine to me.
Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: Sheffield, England
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:09 pm Post subject:
I like the shove. If i'm going to play this hand, i don't like the idea of just calling and being OOP for the rest of the hand. I like putting maximum pressure on my opponents, and so i like this push.
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