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chrisjp
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Joined: 03 Jun 2004
Posts: 4467
Location: Round Rock, TX and Las Vegas
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 Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: MCH Full Tilt Poker Win analysis--Hand 204 |
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Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t50)
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: t17013
Hero: t5835
MP1: t11700
MP2: t20315
MP3: t15241
CO: t21659
Button: t7022
SB: t15847
BB: t19810
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with  
UTG folds, Hero calls t400 (pot was t1050), 6 folds, 6 folds, BB checks.
Flop:    (t1450, 2 players)
BB bets t1200, Hero raises all-in t5385, BB calls t4185 (pot was t8035).
Turn:  (t12220, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t12220)
River:  (t12220, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t12220)
Results:
Final pot: t12220
BB showed 2h 9c
Hero showed 4c 4d
I don't like the limp with M=6. I think it's a fold. I like the c/r on the flop though.  Compare this to hand 223, listed below.
Chris
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t300/t600
(Ante: t75)
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
Hero: t11120
UTG+1: t6050
MP1: t16665
MP2: t9791
MP3: t24284
CO: t26761
Button: t23794
SB: t15775
BB: t20713
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with  
Hero raises to t1600, 7 folds, BB raises all-in t20638, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: t19038 returned to BB.
Results:
Final pot: t4175
I like this one. |
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doubleup
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
Posts: 174
Location: Redding, California
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm new to the M= stuff but isn't it closer to a M of 9? Formula I know of is chip count / blinds+ante (5835/650). M=9 would be borderline call/all-in IMO, M=6 is definitely an all-in IMO, respectively. |
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nsidestrate
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Joined: 26 May 2004
Posts: 20848
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| doubleup wrote: | | I'm new to the M= stuff but isn't it closer to a M of 9? Formula I know of is chip count / blinds+ante (5835/650). M=9 would be borderline call/all-in IMO, M=6 is definitely an all-in IMO, respectively. |
You need to count the cost of antes for the full round, so it is not 600+50, it is 600+450. 5835/1050 = 5.56 |
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doubleup
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
Posts: 174
Location: Redding, California
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Alright cool, that's something I probably overlooked when I saw the formula. Thanks for pointing that out. So in this position with an M of 6 why limp w/ 44? |
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ciaran
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Joined: 10 Sep 2004
Posts: 4328
Location: Alpharetta, GA
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'm somewhat inclined to open fold both, table conditions dependent. I'd rather shove the first one than limp, though. I'm not super-keen on the raise-fold of the second one, but it's probably the best plan.
Also, there's no check-raise in the first one, hero has position. |
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MacTaiga
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 300
Location: Daventry, UK
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Interestingly, I had the pocket 6's in a very similar situation late on in a big (for me) tournament tonight, fortunately I'd been card dead for a while so my raise probably looked uber strong and it got folded round. It was raised on IRC as possibly being a fold situation, I have to admit my main reason for raising it was that it was the only hand I'd seen in an age and it would look stronger than it was.
What are people generally doing with these cards here? |
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emmapeel
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Posts: 2041
Location: Edinburgh
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I might just push all-in pre-flop. Small pairs are good for this and there are anti's to win too.
I might also just call the flop. BB has a 100% range to start with so I think the situation is ok to slowplay. I'm short so I'm happy to take the risk to win more chips.
EP |
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emmapeel
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Location: Edinburgh
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Oh there's another one.
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Looks ok to me. Raising here with 66 is not too far off Harringtons ranges. Harringtons full stack range is 99+ but with a shorter stack he might go down to 88 or even 77.
Folding should be ok to the re-raise as the hand is near the bottom of the range BB might expect.
EP |
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